Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Fwd: Ubuntu Templates

Hi Bjoern,

2012/5/20 Bjoern Michaelsen <bjoern.michaelsen@canonical.com>

> Hi all,
>
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 03:44:09PM +0200, Alexander Wilms wrote:
> > here's the Wiki page:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Ubuntu_Templates
>
> I assume the development has moved elsewhere in the meantime?

Kind of. There's a call for CC0/public domain templates going on right now
at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates . The CC0
license has been chosen to allow for any use of the templates (without the
presenter having to mention the author's name or being restricted by
copyleft or into using the templates with only our software).

> Anyway, upstream feature freeze for 3.6 is closing (2012-06-04) in:
>
>  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.6_release
>
> so I would like to have integrated whatever we have right now and replace
> the
> old default masterpages with them, because frankly: they are _really_
> ugly. I
> am talking about these:
>
>  http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/extras/source/templates/layout/
>
> I agree.


> @Alexander Wilms: The typography templates at
> http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/typography look
> beautiful and
> I would like to make them a replacement for the biggest and most ugly of
> the
> current templates, which are:
>
> 1.1M May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-book.otp
> 706K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-forest.otp
> 690K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-paper.otp
> 639K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-glacier.otp
> 638K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-wine.otp
>
> which in all their ugliness do not justify the space they eat in the
> default
> install. Any objections to that?


> Do we have any more masterpages we could use to replace the ones above? As
> frankly, the current ones are _really_ ugly -- so even if want you have is
> not
> perfect, it is likely better than what we would ship with now (after
> replacing
> the above 5 templates there would still be 25 of the old ones left).

Take a look at the wiki page mentioned above:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates#Submissions
These should all be licensed under CC0.

> The "vintage", "fresh and serious", "Rounded Rectagles" and "Hexagons"
> templates do not look too bad too me. Does anybody know the authors and can
> ping them if it is ok to directly include their work under MPL/LGPLv3+?

I believe most of that (except "Rounded Rectangles") is Alex's work, too.

> Best,
>
> Bjoern
>
> P.S.: At UDS we talked about moving "our" templates to an universe package.
> Back then I was talking about these templates:
>
>
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=tree;f=ubuntu;h=4d6fb808aed6d29944bc4980aae9ce3401e85ec1;hb=refs/heads/ubuntu-oneiric-3.4
>
> however, given how ugly and big these upstream masterpages are:
>
> 506K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-keyboard.otp
> 496K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-water.otp
> 491K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-rededges.otp
> 321K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-numdark.otp
> 306K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-techpoly.otp
> 286K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-bluegrey.otp
>
> we could replace those 6 upstream with the ones from Ubuntu (excluding the
> explicitly Ubuntu-branded one), which are not exactly beautiful, but better
> that the defaults upstream. With that we would have 11 new masterpages
> upstream
> (leaving us with 25-11=14 old ones we would still need to replace).
> Opinions?

I'm all for it, though we would need to convince the authors to release
these under CC0.