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Hi Kendy,

On 11 May 2012 13:06, Jan Holesovsky <kendy@suse.cz> wrote:
The report describes a bug that a setting that used to work does not
work any more.  My concern is that this setting shouldn't exist at all,
in the first place ;-)

I couldn't agree more.
At least unless anyone comes up with a good rationale why users
shouldn't be allowed to scroll – I have read Nico's rationale and I am
not convinced, i.e your approach seems much better.

I can imagine at least two use cases where a "no scrollbars" would be
wanted, however, in those use cases, there would still be no necessity
of actual UI checkboxes:
* Embedding: people embedding LibO as a viewer in weird ways in their
own software – should probably depend on an option in a configuration
file/environment variable/whatever
* Ubuntu, Mac OS, mobile platforms: on Ubuntu, the scrollbar of Gtk/Qt
applications is replaced by a two-pixel wide overlay; Android, Mac OS
and iOS use similar approaches – should probably depend on environment
variable/whatever

In other words: we might want the options to be available in some way,
but the UI to toggle them seems completely unnecessary.


I'd like to turn the original bug report into an EasyHack to actually
remove these settings for good (and hide the scrollbars when they are
not necessary, as it is happening now) TOGETHER with decreasing the
amount of the situations when the scrollbars appear.

Mostly agree, but it might be a good idea to enforce something like 5
pixels of document background on all sides, the current 60 pixels seem
somewhat excessive.


It seems that it is unnecessary to have the minimal page margin
(referenced in the first screenshot) as big as shown there.  Anything
else here comes to your mind we can shrink, to decrease the amount of
situations when the scrollbars appear to bare minimum?

It seems Impress and Draw use scrollbars in an unhealthy fashion, I
guess that's a different topic though.

Astron.

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