Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>wrote:

> Hi Tim, Cor, Kendy!
>
> I'm removing the UX list for the very moment, since this discussion
> might be as annoying to some, as a jumping document would be ;-))) So
> please take a deep breath ...
>
> Tim, I don't know whether we had any real contact before, so a kind
> hello from my side ... nice to (officially) meet you!
>
> Am Montag, den 21.11.2011, 16:53 +0100 schrieb Tim Hardeck:
> > On 11/21/2011 04:40 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > > Jan Holesovsky wrote (21-11-11 16:25)
> > >
> > > > The problem with docking them there is that if you let the behavior as
> > > > it is now (pop-up when you are in the bullet list / table / etc., and
> > > > disappear when you leave that), then your document will be jumping
> left
> > > > and right, which would be incredibly annoying :-(
> > >
> > > I know the effect.
> [...]
>
> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/ideas/context-toolbars-only-icons.png
The picture on the right says "Mouse cursor close to context menus", and I
wanted to remind you that this isn't true for RTL languages, where the text
is on the right side of the screen. That's why I prefer the the context
tool bars on the bottom. I've try this with the Bullets and Numbering
toolbar and I think this is a good idea.

Also, I think that in writer, where we usually have a lot of text, we need
the program window free from other elements. So pushing them to the top and
bottom is easier for text editing. Compare this to the way we work in
Impress, where we have less text, and usually in bigger font, so the slide
itself usually takes only the center of the window as the rest is menus
(slide design, etc...) and task sorter.