Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Header and Footers separators design

Hi Cedric, Christoph,

Some small additions from my POV.

cedric.bosdonnat.ooo@free.fr wrote (22-08-11 15:44)
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> > De: "Christoph Noack"<christoph@dogmatux.com> unbelievable ... at

> > Thanks! At the moment, I'm thinking about how to make use of that
> > - we have several hard-coded elements that would benefit if we
> > could share those color(s).
>
> What are you thinking about? Those colors are already shared in the
> options... or there is something I don't understand

Maybe that 0x0369a3 is something different as COL_LIGHTBLUE ?

> > Some of the things I've noticed: * Enter: It is hard to identify
> > how to enter the header / footer - the given visualization
> > (borders) highlight active text areas that can be entered via one
> > click. But these areas are inactive ... unless the user
> > double-clicks (which is not visualized to the user).
>
> Is there anything we could do to make it easier to identify?

In any case, users might recognise it from Word.

> > * Abort: It is hard to identify how / and cumbersome to go back to
> > the document content. In contrast to MSO, there is no visualization
> > / hint how to do that. Examples: * Double-click is unusual (in
> > LibO) and there is no visual clue
>
> What kind of clue / mechanism would be more natural to users then?

Maybe the labels could have a <click here to close> ?

> > * Although single-click doesn't work to go back to the document
> > content, right-clicking once works - why?
>
> Doh! that's a bug / something I missed in the implementation.

Ah, I like that bug!

> > * ESC in header/footer goes back to the last position in the
> > document, but: if the user moved to another page in the meantime,
> > it jumps to the old location

(me likes ESC too)

> > * I think the "Edit - Headers&Footers" behavior is a bit strange.
> > Its deactivated, if there is no header/footer on the page. But, its
> > activated if either header or footer is there. Then, the missing
> > item gets highlighted anyway ... without providing a clue how to
> > really add this missing element. -->  could be more supporting

In the last build I tried, it is disabled all the time :-\
  Build ID: 35913b9-4eb4f62-260b7c1

> An option here is to enable that menu item in all cases. If triggered
> when there is no header/footer in the document, then it would add
> them to the current page style. How does it sound?

That forces you to choose a header, footer or both?

> > * Technical issues: In my test environment (Fedora 15, VirtualBox),
> > I regularly have ghost cursors showing up - if you change the mode
> > when the blinking cursor is shown, it doesn't get removed (e.g.
> > entering the header from the document, the document keeps a
> > non-blinking cursor).
>
> Could it come from the fact it's in a virtual machine? I had that
> fixed a while ago... but I may have missed something.

Didn't notice those indeed.

Best,


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