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Re: [libreoffice-users] AltGr functionality


It's not just "the system." Your "keyboard setting" is a layered approach:
BIOS, <- system kernel, <- startup daemons, <-display driver (x.org +
Gnome, etc.) <- app. You need to work your way up the chain. Any keyboard
setting at a higher level can override lower level settings. Also, you
might check your mouse/pointer driver. Some mouse drivers can have traps on
control keys.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 4:07 AM Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> This is something that I've seen for years and I think it applies to Apache
> OpenOffice as well. Since I live in a country where English is not the
> native language, my keyboard has this AltGr button, I think it's also
> called the ”Right Alt key” (and the regular Alt key is referred to as the
> ”Left Alt key”) in most of the operating systems I've used (currently
> Manjaro, I switched from Ubuntu a couple of years ago). Since my alphabet
> has 29 letters, there are too few keys for the characters @£${[]}\€, so the
> AltGr key is used for that, for instance AltGr+8 → [.
>
> This works perfectly in LibreOffice, no problems there, but it seems like
> the AltGr key is disabled, overridden, in some situations, for instance in
> combination with the arrow keys, so Alt+← has the exact same effect as just
> the ← key by itself.
>
> Do anyone here happen to know why? ←→↓↑ are just keys, like k, c and f.
>
> The reason I ask is that I use my own keyboard layout to make it more
> intuitive to type some characters that are normally not on a keyboard, so I
> rearranged the original layout a bit. Almost every key now can type a
> character with AltGr, in combination with Shift or not. A few examples:
> AltGr+[Enter] → ↵
> AltGr+Shift+[Enter] → ¶
> AltGr+[Tab] → ⇥
> AltGr+Shift+[Tab] → ⇤
> AltGr+[Backspace] → ⌫
> AltGr+Shift+[Backspace] → ⌦
> AltGr+↑ → ↑ (the ↑ character, not the ”move to the line above” feature)
> and more.
>
> Anyway, since the AltGr key seems disabled in combination with these keys,
> I can't type those arrows and things I just mentioned in LibreOffice,
> unless I place them at other keys in my layout, but that would be less
> intuitive (why would AltGr+i be a →? It is on my native default keyboard
> layout, but that doesn't make much sense, does it?).
>
> I mean it's 2019, Unicode has been along for decades and we should be able
> to use it with ease, right? I know there are workarounds, like
> auto-correction and external programs like AutoKey (which I recommend, by
> the way, but only install the latest version; the version in Ubuntu's
> repositories for instance, is very outdated and doesn't work properly).
>
> Also, do you think that writing a bug report about this would lead to
> anything good? I suspect I will get something like ”don't make your own
> keyboard layouts, you moron” in reply at best.
>
> Thanks for listening.
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>
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