That's just true. Only time documents don't render elements is when
you use features only in the new version. Microsoft back ports format
support. It's not an issue. Office 2007/10 documents opened with no
issues in Office XP/2003, save for the above named issue.
Using new version quickly after release on older hardware is always an
issue due to drivers. The OS is new and often developers and OEMs
don't have the updates out. This exists for all OSes. My Razer
peripherals didn't function for weeks after the macks Sierra update
because Razer didn't have their driver updates ready.
Vista had many driver level changes, and people moving from 98/Me to
2000/XP had even greater issues with both software and hardware.
That's all pretty much expected.
I used RH Enterprise Linux WS back then. My device drivers (especially
graphics) broke on version upgrades while I waited for ATI to get a
new package out, and this still happens with system upgrades that
change things like the Kernel or X.Org.
On Jul 17, 2017 10:17 AM, "Tim-L--Elmira-NY"
<webmaster@krackedpress.com <mailto:webmaster@krackedpress.com>> wrote:
I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I
have had trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were
new. Even with fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble. That
is one reason I use Ubuntu Linux with MATE desktop environment.
Even people who use Linux can tell you that there are some issues
using Linux, just like Windows does.
As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there
are problems with both. The fact that MS Office's .docx format is
different between the various MS Office version with the newest
version of .docx formatted documents can not be opened/viewed
properly with the earlier versions of Office with .docx
Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect. Our
developers are volunteers. They do the best they can to fix any
issues that are reported in the Bug Reporting system. The good
thing is that LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word.
Of course, LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such
complex that only 0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will
use. There were special "classes" on these very complex
options/functions. One year there was an announcement that the
new version have over 1000 new functions over the previous
version. LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package to due
it all".
On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:
Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to
cause problems.
From: Concerned Citizen <ibeconcerned@gmail.com
<mailto:ibeconcerned@gmail.com>>
Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com <mailto:laginnis@gmail.com>>
Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate
channels.
Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage
emails from
everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology" <laginnis@gmail.com
<mailto:laginnis@gmail.com>> wrote:
Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to
MsFt's heads with
problems & these will be fixed pronto;
if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you
so did.
And just what is NT4???
From: Concerned Citizen <ibeconcerned@gmail.com
<mailto:ibeconcerned@gmail.com>>
Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com <mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue
and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...
This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember
LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as
many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite
on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware
Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on
a Notebook on
Battery). To tons of issues with Styles. To epic
performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts
(disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.). Bad font rendering
in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something
on a low res
PenTile display). And the fact that the apps perform
worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I
own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).
I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly
off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft
and Microsoft
Windows. Is there nothing better to do with your time,
and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil
discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition"
reflex you're
exhibiting, here?
For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top
level and simply
propagate the permission changes down. It's not
difficult. It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies
<tomcecf@gmail.com <mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi :)
One problem, once and experienced by just one person
rarely compares with
the problems that abound on Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)
On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"
<tomdkat@comcast.net <mailto:tomdkat@comcast.net>> wrote:
On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the
permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.
I have no idea how to fix it. I think we went
through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds
like a very
inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying
to fix it generally.
Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)
Wow. Craziness. :)
Peace...
"The Other" Tom
On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams
<tomdkat@comcast.net <mailto:tomdkat@comcast.net>
<mailto:tomdkat@comcast.net
<mailto:tomdkat@comcast.net>>> wrote:
On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> I am having trouble with this suite.
Normally I have been able
to open, amend, and save a document without
any problem.
However, in the last week or so I can only
open a document in
read-only form. To change the contents I
have to open a copy for
editing, save that under a different name,
delete the original,
and then rename the new document to fit in
with my filing system.
This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> The only event that I can identify as a
possible cause is that
about the same time there was an automatic
update to Windows 10,
and there might be some incompatablity
between the updated Windows
and LibreOffice. (I have since installed
the latest update to
LibreOffice5, but to no avail; the problem
is still there).
However that is only a wild guess! I
would be grateful for
your advice and a remedy
> regards
> M. Hely
>
I have two basic questions:
1. Have you confirmed the original file
wasn't already "read-only"
before attempting to open it?
2. Are you opening files from the file
system or directly from an
email
attachment?
These are things you have probably already
thought of but I want
to ask
anyway. :) I've run LibreOffice 5 on a
couple of Windows 10
systems
and have been able to open, edit, and save
documents without issue.
Peace...
"The Other" Tom
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