Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

Hi :)
Your position is a good one and doesn't need defending.  If we all agreed about 
everything all the time it would be very dull.  Lets hope we never get there!

Usually we work towards a win-win so that everyone is happy but in this case we 
have been forced into a compromise which no-one has won and some points of view 
have lost out more than others.  The fact is (imo) that you are right and other 
people (incl me) are trying to defend a less-than-perfect system.  


There is a Nabble thread about this and if you have a good idea of how to 
implement a better answer then it would be great to add to that thread.  That 
seems to be the blocker at the moment, the implementation is not easy.  Other 
mailing lists have better answers but the mailing-list system we are using is 
different.  


Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 16:56:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:01:37 Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
> Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Stan,
>
> > Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?
>
> Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be
> done for them.  They're called lazy people.

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

An irrational response might be to dismiss them all as just lazy people 
who need to be taught a lesson, even though teaching this lesson several 
times a week also bothers to a slight degree each and every reader of 
the list, not  to mention the Good Samaritans who send out these 
messages two or three times a week. The aggregate bother over, say, a 
year is not at all trivial, and it is all sooo unnecessary,

> > Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?
>
> Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior
> motive?

If you will read that sentence again, you may notice that it is not an 
accusation, but one in a series of hypothericals, framed as questions, 
meant to display the absence of any logical explanation for the unusual 
way unsubscription is being handled. As you have perceived it as an 
acccusation, it seems to have struck a nerve. For the record however, I 
don't care how you get your jollies; What you do with your surplus time 
is certainly your own business.

I am sure I've said everything I have to say on this subject, several 
times. I don't have any interest in defending my position further. It's 
been educational, which is something, and it's shown me an especially 
comical human foible that I must somehow have missed earlier.

As you were.

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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