Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibraOffice-Users] - DONT use> Reply to < for a new thread

Hi :)
Sorry, i didn't notice this because i don't use Nabble or Gmane for the emailing 
list.  I just use my normal email-client and i imagine most new users do too.  
Still, it's good to know for the future so thanks for that Hal :)
Regards from
Tom :)




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From: John B <johnb@email2.me>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 20:27:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] [LibraOffice-Users] - DONT use>  Reply to < for a 
new thread

Dear Hal

I had no Idea this happened, I thought just by putting in a new subject changed 
the thread.

I will make up a template for use for  new subjects from now on.

John B

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John,

You've written two posts by hitting "Reply to:" on another email that's about 
another subject (About the Delete Key on OS X).  While that's an easy way to 
make sure you get the list address without typing it in, it means your new 
posts, on totally different topics, are rolled up into this thread about the 
Delete Key.

That creates a few problems: 1) Those dealing with the thread on Delete Keys are 
frustrated because that discussion is now taken over by two other topics and 
it's harder to follow the discussion, and 2) People that are potentially 
interested in your topics have a good chance of never seeing them because 
they're folded up in a topic about Delete Keys and OS X.  People that may have 
answers to your questions may never see your posts because they'll be filed 
under the other topic, so they may see that topic, decide it doesn't apply to 
them, and delete the entire thread, including your posts.

You can avoid this by not starting new threads by using the "Reply to:" function 
and just changing the title -- email programs look at data other than the 
subject to determine topic threads.



Hal

On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:10 AM, John B wrote:


> Eagerly awaited - for a LO working mail merge from the newly released 3.4.1
>
> Before I did this test, I completely cleaned 3.3.3 using revo-uninstaller to 
> ensure a completely new install.
>
> The 1st thing I did was to view existing mail merge data files from 3.3.3 - 
> they were still all screwed up as before. I therefore deleted them, so at to not 
> cause further confusion and start again from new. However, I could not find a 
> way of deleting the old files from the internal list (there is no remove 
> button), once I looked at them.
>
> I started from fresh, I created a standard 2 name data base for Mr Smith&  Mr 
> Blogs.
>
> I did this with ease. Now when the MM came to the part that places the data on 
> the letter (6. Edit Document), a few strange things happened, the address line 
> 2, the County and Company names were not present,  the post code came before the 
> town name and the title "Mr" is on a separate line to his name.
>
> This is where you have a learn a new "game" called shuffle and add the field 
> names. So you go back to "3. Insert Address Block", go into edit mode and play 
> with the arrows and create a standard address pattern (which you would have 
> thought would be the default).  I considered that this could this be deliberate 
> (because they are so bad)  - so as to force you to look and make your own? 
> However, you will only have to do this once, as LO remembers this layout for the 
> next time.
>
> Then Create Salutation (tick the boxes),>Adjust layout (I did not use this),>  
> then Edit document
>
> In Edit Document the Field Names are deposited on your letter for the 1st time, 
> the next thing you notice is the weird Spacing between the address lines, you 
> cannot adjust this in the document directly (its frozen),   so you have to go to 
> the Edit Document's:-  "Edit Document">  (right click)>  Edit Paragraph style>  
> indents&  spacing>  Below Paragraph>   set to 0.00cm - This puts it back to the 
> letter default.
>
> Then Personalise Document  (this prints all your letters) - this is where you 
> now can see (WYSIWYG) for the 1st time, the full document that will be printed 
> and you realise that there are no spaces or comma's between the fields hence the 
> 1st line looks like MrJohnSmith.
>
> To resolve this, you have to go back to Edit Document to put in spaces (and 
> comma's). I could find no way of doing this at making / inserting address block 
> stage, so you will always need to do  this on each new mail merge.
>
> I saved and Exited
>
> I then realised that there were no name(s) after the salutation  Dear ......, 
> so I went back and tried  unsuccessfully to insert it again, the moment you go 
> from Edit Document (where the Dear Mr Smith exists) to Personalise Document, it 
> disappears ( a Bug me thinks). As a work around, whilst in Edit mode, I copied&  
> pasted the name, this (the name) stayed when I went on to Personalise Document 
> (annoying but it worked). So I would suggest don't use "Create Salutation, make 
> your own, by copying&  pasting from the main Address block.
>
> Also, on testing,  other previously known bugs:-
>
> As long as you do not click the "Insert address block" on the 2nd time around 
> (leave it greyed out), then it does not insert a 2nd address block AND the links 
> stay in place.
>
> Having exited again, I then edited the data base file (*.csv) by adding a new 
> name (a 3rd name in my case),  in the spread sheet format *.csv (it takes a 
> while to find this file and remember to read it in "tab" format). Re- started 
> the mail merge - and it Worked!! - 3 names. So names&  addresses can now be 
> entered with ease and without having to open mail merge and  mass data can now 
> be pasted into the *csv file - if you so desire!
>
> Summary:-
>
> Other than a few minor niggles and only the one (easy to get around) "bug", 
> that I could find, it's getting there, but most importantly :- its usable.
>
> John B

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