Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac people

Hi :)

There is no conflicting advice.  Everyone is saying exactly the same thing but 
perhaps it's not being made clear enough.  It is not worth putting the vast 
amount of effort required into fixing the trivial issue that almost no-one 
experiences and that has a simple work-around anyway.

There is a guide on how to install multiple versions of LibreOffice and 
OpenOffice and possibly other products developed from the  original StarOffice 
over the last decade or so.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel


The guide is a work-around because a careless,  straight install of both 
occasionally causes intermittent clashes on some machines in certain 
situations.  However, the problems are RARE and only seen in a tiny percentage 
of systems that have multiple instances installed.  


At worst the problems  do not cause any harm to data or security (except to 
cause one of the programs to close unexpectedly).  They don't open any 
vulnerabilities in the programs nor in other programs nor in the Operating 
System.  Fixing it requires a major re-write of the  code that has been 
developed over the last 10years or so and if done hastily without proper and 
considerable planning could cause major breakages.  It's not something to rush 
and is not something that can be sorted over-night!!  


LibreOffice devs are working at the first step in the process towards sorting 
it.  The work was not supported in OpenOffice although Sun had begun the 
planning process.  So far that first step, being done by LibreOffice devs, has 
taken an average of over 100 devs over 6 months.  Various other benefits have 
been gained from that, such as tighter, faster, more secure (more stable) code.  
Code and functionality from other forks have been integrated into the main 
branch.  Other functionality and developments added.  Ancient bug-reports have 
been and are being solved along with newer issues.  The program size has been 
drastically reduced with benefits in download size, install times and general 
efficiency.  


So it's NOT trivial, it IS being worked on and there is a simple work-around 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
to prevent the RARE instances of a non-harmful problem which occasionally arises 
under circumstances that the vast majority of users would NOT experience.  


If people do ignore all the advice and then fail to read the simple guide that 
keeps on being pointed to for the very tiny number of people that want to try 
running both at the same time then there is a high chance they still wont 
encounter any problems.  IF they do (and that is a big IF) then usually turning 
off the Quick Start in OpenOffice (not LibreOffice) and not opening both at the 
same time is enough to make sure the minor issue doesn't happen again.  


It is not worth putting the vast amount of effort required into fixing the 
trivial issue that almost no-one experiences and that has a simple and 
reasonably well-publicised work-around anyway.

Regards from
Tom :)





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From: aqualung <xfekdcugjrkz@mailinator.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 9:59:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac people


Ernest Kurtz wrote:
> Thank you, Alex. Is there any possibility of having an LO Mac list?  This
> list is deluging my mailbox with queries foreign to my needs and
> experience.  
The OpenOffice.org community forum does have a 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=17 Mac-specific
section  as well as a 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=101 LibreOffice
section , and we welcome queries from Mac people and LibO people.

I recently started a thread about having 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Side-by-side-install-of-LibO-and-OOo-tp3078835p3078835.html

LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org coexist  on a computer. I am hearing
conflicting stories about this, some people say they have both with no
trouble, others talk about serious interference between the two.

I believe this situation should be addressed very soon, as it is
unacceptable for one program to demand that you uninstall another first,
which is the advice given in the LibreOffice 3.3.3 Release Notes. Any
suggestions on how to capture developers' attention and convince them of the
seriousness of the matter are welcome!

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