Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: upgrade path?

On 05/25/2011 08:30 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/25/2011 03:21 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > Tom Davies wrote (25-05-11 23:53)
> > > Lol.
> > Lol too
> >
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
> > Release cycle of 6 months, does mean in our case approximately 6-7
> > releases a year.
> ...
>
> No. It means the "final" releases are (I suspect) in sync with Ubuntu
> releases:
>
> <quote>
> Synchronizing our time based release schedule with the wider Free
> Software ecosystem also has huge advantages, by getting our new
> features, out to users as quickly as possible - with a minimum of
> distribution cycle lag. In consequence, we will aim at six monthly
> releases, and over time nudge them to align well with the March /
> September norms.
> </quote>
>
> Seems to indicate that LO are bending over to Ubuntu/<possibly other
> distro>  release schedules. Let's see... Ubuntu releases are April (hence
> the LO March time) and October (hence the LO September time)...
>
> This was quite apparent with the LO 3.3.2 "release" in sync with Ubuntu
> Natty 11.04 with considerable breakage/bugs still in LO 3.3. Please tell
> me that I'm wrong.
well 3.4 is scheduled to be out around June 1st.  We are on RC2 right now.

3.3.0 was LO's first release version and it came out before OOo did and 
was better, plus a lot of legacy coding was fixed.  Every release has 
some of that old, unused, bad, or clunky coding repaired, replaced, 
etc., so future edits would not be dependent on the old legacy stuff not 
messing up the new stuff.  Sun and Oracle both had that problem.  LO's 
developers do not have the problem of "wasting" man-hours on fixing code 
that was not done properly in the first place.  Our developers both 
started cleaning up the legacy coding and put out a better product than 
Oracle did, plus beat them to the release date.  This is not our 
statements, but tech publication reviews and articles stating this.

As for trying to have our releases timed with repository upgrading?  
Well it may be something for the scheduling people to use for getting 
dates.  It does take time to get the release packages listed on the 
LibreOffice download sites to be "converted" for repository 
updating/upgrading cycles.  I do not know how much time it would take, 
but 3.3.0 came out in the beginning of the year, and then a few months 
later Ubuntu and others announced that they will add LibreOffice 3.3.x 
to their repositories and then drop OOo as their default installed 
office suite.

As for "still having bugs"; well 99% of all software for the PC market 
has bugs in their release versions.  No one can find them all.  Some are 
found by accident due to weird interaction with specific data or actions 
created by a user.  We are no better, and hopefully no worse, than other 
software developers when it comes to bugs.  Of course, we do not charge 
you to buy our software and do its best to own up to any bugs found, 
unlike some companies that most of us know and hate.  Open Source 
software may seem to some as having more bugs than their paid 
alternatives, but the open source community are more open about these 
things and will not tell you that you are at fault and not their high 
priced software.  This openness also makes it easier to find the cause 
of the bug and get it fixed faster and better.

As for fixed schedules for software releases????
If the developers have version 3.4.4 list of work finished a month 
early, they could start the RC process early, and not wait.  So people 
could see a new version/update out quicker than schedules, or if 
problems arise even have it out later.  3.4 was originally due out mid 
May, but it will be late May or first thing in June.  No big deal.  Of 
course we are not waiting for the Fall to introduce the 3.4 version and 
keeping the 3.3.x numbers going and going till then.

That is my opinion - what is yours?



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