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Hi Steve,

Thank you for your comments. I've investigated some more in line with your queries:

1.*If you save a copy of the document and delete everything either side of the pages with the 
images, are the images still 'gone' but export to PDF*.  I deleted all pages prior to and after the 
single page which contains those 2 images and which remained in the 'gone' state. And then I 
exported the remaining page to pdf and watched the images appear in front of my eyes in the odt 
file when I hit the final export button (after naming the pdf). The pdf contained the images 
correctly displayed. So they seem to be hidden within the page.

2.*If you delete the frame is the image also gone (fails to print). * Yes, frame deleted, the image 
is gone and no longer exports to pdf.

3.*If you then insert the images without them being in a frame does this avoid the disappearing.*  
Yes. That was my workaround which I forgot to mention in the original post and which helped me to 
associate the problem with the frame.

I've revised these documents several times over the years and never had this problem before. Up to 
present, I've always anchored the frame to a paragraph and the image is anchored inside the frame 
'as a character'.
Philip

On 31/07/2025 22:29, Steve Edmonds wrote:
I have had disappearing images in documents that have been revised since the start of LO, but never 
tried the export to pdf until the disappearing was fixed to notice if they had printed.
Once was when EPS vector images were no longer working, resolved by converting to PDF.
Once when LO change the image anchoring, found that the images hadn't disappeared, just jumped 
away, even off the page.
I have a vague recollection of your experience with resizing the frame, I no longer have any images 
in frames so may be that was the reason.

If you save a copy of the document and delete everything either side of the pages with the images, 
are the images still 'gone' but export to PDF.
If you delete the frame is the image also gone (fails to print).
If you then insert the images without them being in a frame does this avoid the disappearing.
Steve

On 1/08/25 2:04 am, Philip Jackson wrote:
Using LO 24.2.7.2 in UbuntuStudio 24.02. But the same happens with LO 25.2.1.2 in Windows 11.

The book has 72 images in 13 Chapters, all B&W .png images of a technical nature. All were inserted in the 
same manner: each inside a frame containing the image and beneath it, a caption "Figure x.x: some 
text". They are all embedded and not linked.

This book has gone through several iterations over the years without problem but the revisions I 
made this year (3 of them - PaperBack, HardCover, LargePrint) all suffer from the same problem. 
Fortunately, the pdf's exported from the odt files are good.

Two of the images, Figures 7.6 and 7.7, are not displayed when I open the odt file. The frames are 
there, correctly sized, no image, the caption appearing at the top of the frame.

At first, I tried re-inserting the two images but then each appeared twice, so I figured that they 
were not missing but only hidden. Subsequently, I find that if I slightly resize the frame using 
one of its handles to twitch it either slightly taller or shorter, the lost image comes back.

Saving the file, closing and re-opening causes these two images to disappear again.

Most curiously, if I open the odt file, leave the Figs 7.6 and 7.7 in their 'disappeared' state, 
export the file to pdf, as soon as I hit the final 'export' button, the two images jump back into 
view. The exported pdf correctly shows all images.

When I look at the parameters of the frames and the images, I can see nothing which distinguishes 
Figs 7.6 and 7.7 from any of the other 70 images in the book.

Can anybody shed any light on where to look to see what distinguishes these two from the rest so 
that I can rely on their visual presence when the file is opened?

Thank you.
Philip




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