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At 12:06 20/02/2016 +0000, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
i find a PDF from online, i checked: open with libreoffice 5.0.5 worked but not full correct format and style.

That's par for the course. Portable Document Format was designed as a format for *final* versions of documents - those that will not need any modification by others. It is also more robust to changes of platform, application, available fonts, and so on than are word processor and similar formats. Think of PDFs as the electronic equivalent of hard copy. It's highly debatable, then, whether any attempt ought to be made to facilitate import of PDFs into a word processor: this will encourage people to indulge in unwise work practices. If you need to modify a PDF, your first choice should be to obtain from the original source a form suitable for editing - such as a word processor document file.

so i want to show you here mail list group users libreoffice for develop to best read pdf. ok?

When an author creates a document in a word processor and then exports this as PDF, much of the structure of the document will be lost: the PDF instead encapsulates the *appearance* of the document. Any attempt by office software to reconstruct the original can be only by guesswork; hence the imperfections you see. Instead of expecting office software to get better at this, I suggest you should revise your working practices.

file pdf:

This is interesting, as it is clearly a form required to be completed by its recipient. There are various possibilities here:

o The supplier may want users to complete this by hand in ink on hard copy for some reason, and have supplied it in PDF form in an attempt to enforce this.

o The supplier may know that if they provided it in word processor format, some users would make unnecessary and unwelcome changes to the document whilst completing it and provide the result in a range of different formats - all of which they may well find unwelcome.

o What the supplier probably could - and should - have done is to create a PDF document including form fields. This would allow you to complete the form electronically, using appropriate software, and print or possibly resave it. This requires the document creator to permit the filling of form fields - but this has already been done in the document to which you refer. Note that it is not necessary to purchase the fee-licensed Adobe Acrobat to fill form fields: the freeware Adobe Reader will - perhaps surprisingly - accomplish this. (You may want to complain to the supplier about their failure to use this method.)

o Meanwhile, one workaround is to paste an image of the PDF document into a drawing (Draw) document in LibreOffice. You can then superimpose text boxes over the image to complete the form. This is messy but it works. The returned form can be hard copy or PDF and will be in the format the supplier expects, whilst you have been able to type clearly into it instead of using handwriting.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

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