Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 5.0.5 with PDF testing..result not correct..need to check to team developers ok?

At 12:06 20/02/2016 +0000, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
> i find a PDF from online, i checked: open with libreoffice 5.0.5 
> worked but not full correct format and style.

That's par for the course. Portable Document Format was designed as a 
format for *final* versions of documents - those that will not need 
any modification by others. It is also more robust to changes of 
platform, application, available fonts, and so on than are word 
processor and similar formats. Think of PDFs as the electronic 
equivalent of hard copy. It's highly debatable, then, whether any 
attempt ought to be made to facilitate import of PDFs into a word 
processor: this will encourage people to indulge in unwise work 
practices. If you need to modify a PDF, your first choice should be 
to obtain from the original source a form suitable for editing - such 
as a word processor document file.

> so i want to show you here mail list group users libreoffice for 
> develop to best read pdf. ok?

When an author creates a document in a word processor and then 
exports this as PDF, much of the structure of the document will be 
lost: the PDF instead encapsulates the *appearance* of the document. 
Any attempt by office software to reconstruct the original can be 
only by guesswork; hence the imperfections you see. Instead of 
expecting office software to get better at this, I suggest you should 
revise your working practices.

> file pdf:http://www.ensmilano.it/public/upload/2008/11/19/Offerta_Tim.pdf

This is interesting, as it is clearly a form required to be completed 
by its recipient. There are various possibilities here:

o The supplier may want users to complete this by hand in ink on hard 
copy for some reason, and have supplied it in PDF form in an attempt 
to enforce this.

o The supplier may know that if they provided it in word processor 
format, some users would make unnecessary and unwelcome changes to 
the document whilst completing it and provide the result in a range 
of different formats - all of which they may well find unwelcome.

o What the supplier probably could - and should - have done is to 
create a PDF document including form fields. This would allow you to 
complete the form electronically, using appropriate software, and 
print or possibly resave it. This requires the document creator to 
permit the filling of form fields - but this has already been done in 
the document to which you refer. Note that it is not necessary to 
purchase the fee-licensed Adobe Acrobat to fill form fields: the 
freeware Adobe Reader will - perhaps surprisingly - accomplish this. 
(You may want to complain to the supplier about their failure to use 
this method.)

o Meanwhile, one workaround is to paste an image of the PDF document 
into a drawing (Draw) document in LibreOffice. You can then 
superimpose text boxes over the image to complete the form. This is 
messy but it works. The returned form can be hard copy or PDF and 
will be in the format the supplier expects, whilst you have been able 
to type clearly into it instead of using handwriting.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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