Re: [libreoffice-users] CONGRATULATIONS!!1!

       very interesting indeed.

       When I saw that message, I thought it was another of these
advertisements for something; so merely deleted it -
          now, I still am thinking that although I commend both of you for
responding with an attempt to help this 'PhD candidate' who seemed to
forget to state what his actual problem(s) is/are.

       BTW this reminds me of the time I was asked to read some PhD theses
- many were so lacking in proper grammar &/or logical thinking that I
merely wrote 'muddled thinking' on the paper; the professor told me that
was what he'd been thinking but was afraid to act before getting a second
opinion  ;-)



From: Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] CONGRATULATIONS!!1!
To: Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com>
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>


Hi :)
Looks like someone just having a "bad hair day" (or week or something).

Inevitably LibreOffice does have imperfections, just as all other
software, and everything else does too.  In some cases they can be
over-come quite easily by switching from the default "Fresh" to the
more mature "Still" branch - or vice-versa.  In Linux-land we often
have choices such as using the tweaked versions in our distro's repos
(through a package manager) or download from the official LibreOffice
website and install, or even get the source-code and "make" or "build"
if you are a purist and using Gentoo or Arch or Slackware or
something.  So for most of us point&click users we have 2 or 3 easy
options.

I suspect that the major problem is that the default version of
LibreOffice is always the latest "Fresh", unlike other OpenSource
projects that give the most solidly matured branch to noobs and then
leave it to geeks to find their way around to getting the "more
advanced" one.

Anyway, i too have been very happily using LibreOffice for over 5
years and everyone i meet who has used it (apart from one) has also
been very happy with it - or become happy once i help them switch to
the "Still" branch.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 19 November 2015 at 15:39, Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com> wrote:
> I usually don't reply to these kind of posts (I keep my rare contributions
> in trying to help others...) but there's something to say here.
>
> You forgot to say exactly what's wrong. You didn't even allude to it. Your
> whole message can be summed up by "Useless". From the tone of it I guess
> that you don't want at all to be constructive, but maybe I'm mistaken; in
> that case please tell us what issues, precisely or in general, you have,
> and most likely people here (maybe me too) will try to help you out.
> For the record, right now, I'm using LibreOffice on my office computer
> running Debian without issues, and I'm fairly certain that a lot of people
> out there are too, so your "make the software practically useless"
> statement is rude, and borderline offensive to the people that work both
> with and on LibreOffice.
>
> The purpose of this list is to provide help to users, and it's working as
> fine as LibreOffice itself. It is not here so you can vent out and just
> drop random, non-constructive nonsense.
>
> Sorry for the noise,
>
> Cley Faye
> http://cleyfaye.net
>
> 2015-11-19 15:21 GMT+01:00 O'Shea Keiron <keiron.oshea@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am by no means a negative person, so can I just congratulate you all
> > on your recent achievements in making LibreOffice completely and
> > utterly unusable on the Linux platform!!
> >
> > It is said by many in the FOSS community that the 'one' thing (of
> > many) holding Linux back as an actual usable OS is that it lacks a
> > comprehensive office suite.
> >
> > LO and OO promised to solve this issue. A unified office suite, with
> > the ease of use and format compatibility of MS Office.
> >
> > Instead, we're seeing the software package regress.
> >
> > It's all well and good chuffing yourselves up about code clean ups,
> > but if these clean ups make the software practically useless for the
> > end user - then you might as well throw the towel in.
> >
> > Working software first.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Keiron O'Shea 毛毛
> >
> > Aberystwyth University
> > PhD Student, IBERS
> > keo7@aber.ac.uk || KeironTeilo.OShea@Kaust.edu.sa ||
> > http://users.aber.ac.uk/keo7

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