Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer autosave

On Sunday 04 Oct 2015 19:02:45 Brian Barker wrote:
> At 17:54 04/10/2015 +0100, you wrote:
> > How is the autosave supposed to work?
>
> Slightly differently from how you imagine, it seems.

so it would seem.  i assumed that it had always saved the file in the past.
 
> > I've got my set to save every 4 minutes so i rarely press "Save".
>
> I'm not sure that makes any sense. First, the time setting is
> basically for saving AutoRecovery information, which is not the same
> as saving the document. Do you have "Automatically save the document
> too" ticked? If not, your document file will not be being updated and
> you will need to save the document periodically.
I thought that was the save the document as i'm sure that what it used to be.  
i don't have "Automatically save the document too" question anywhere on the 
"Load/Save/General" options page 
> > I just had a situation where i have made some changes, left the
> > machine for an hour or so without saving or closing, ...
>
> This is probably unwise, of course. A power surge or power outage
> could cause problems, as could mistaken behaviour by another person,
> an error by you when you returned, or many other things. Hopefully
> you would normally at least save the document explicitly before
> taking the break.
i will do in future until i work out how to use the autosave 

> > ... came back to the machine and closed Writer. It didn't ask me to
> > save but it crashed as it closed. I reloaded it and selected the
> > file that was open to be recovered. It recovered the file but an
> > older version of it, should it not have recovered the contents that
> > were on the screen that should have been autosaved every 4 minutes
> > during that hour the document was still open?
>
> I suspect probably not. I'm guessing, but I don't see it as obvious
> that either the AutoRecovery information or the file itself would be
> saved every four minutes if - as would be the case - no changes had
> been made. So possibly only one save would be made after you last
> made a change.
it certainly didn't as it was not autosaving the whole document.
 
> o If you do not have "Automatically save the document too" ticked,
where is this question in the Options?

> the crash must have occurred before you were challenged to save the
> document. The recovery information would refer to a point somewhat
> before you last saved the document - so not including the most recent
> edits. Solution: save the document before taking your meal break.
>
> o If you do have "Automatically save the document too" ticked, you
> will have a perfect version of the document in its original location
> and have no need for the recovery information. Solution: either
> reject the recovery process or accept it but do not save the result
> over the existing file; either discard it or else save it as a
> separate file (under a new name). Reopen the original document for
> the current version.
>
> > And..  why does the copy and paste work ...
>
> Why does copy and paste work? Er, it's meant to! Do you perhaps mean
> why does it *not* work?
>
> > ... where you use the mouse to highlight and paste it? It works with
> > ctrl-c, ctrl-v ok.
>
> Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V are only how you paste after you have selected the
> relevant text to copy and potentially to replace, of course. What
> other method are you referring to? (There are many techniques.) Edit
on the linux desktop, you can highlight the text with the mouse and just paste 
it somewhere else with a button click, no need to ctrl-c, ctrl-v

> | Copy and Edit | Paste (and so on) should work. So should
>
> right-click | Copy and right-click | Paste. Or do you mean something
> using a third mouse button that your operating system supplies (or
> fails to)? There is some suggestion on the web that the paste
> function works but not the copy one for some versions of LibreOffice.
yep, its been working randomly over the years.

> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker - privately


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