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       Obviously you're not going to the Gizmo's site.

       Those 4 programs as well as LO are similar, yes.

       Tucows, Cnet, ... are not the same as Gizmo's - those sites do not
cater to the user who wishes to avoid MsFt yet use quality software;
           in fact, I think those sites are attempting to make a profit.

From: Charles-H. Schulz <>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
Cc: Florian Effenberger <>

I'm very sorry Anne, but going there prompts me to lists of software by
categories; only a fraction of these are actual Free Software (and I have
to look for them).
So unless I live on a parallel internet anyone can go there and see by
him/herself: it's mostly freeware and donationware. In fact you mentioned
yourself the following software: C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView ; and then
VLC. Do you make any difference between these?

Sites like Tucows, CnetDownload do offer LibreOffice download; that does
not mean it's acceptable either. Again I'm sorry to nitpick: all I'm saying
is that it is not good practice. I realize you may have discovered
LibreOffice through that site, but it's still a download site with freeware.


Le 13.07.2015 17:53, anne-ology a écrit :

That is so *un*true.

       If you were to actually go there, you would know they recommend LO -
            (in fact, that's how I learned of LO)

       If you were to actually go there, you would know they are so opposed
to the freeware/adware software
          and only recommend 'clean' software, that are made and handled by
reputable companies and/or individuals.

       They do not cater to WINdows; in fact, they often recommend others;
          (they started to get away from the MSFT built-in software)

       They are strictly volunteer based; therefore no one has undue
          check out their various blogs on whatever program/topic to see
how the various discussions flow ...
         or the various articles pertaining to any software category where
not one, but several programs are rated with pros & cons.

       They do not recommend 'freeware' or donation-ware -
           although some of the individuals making software do state they
would appreciate a donation of any amount at any time;
         you should notice, that LO also is in this category.

       I was not - nor have I, been advertising this;
           but when I think that someone would be interested in a
program(s), which I thoroughly enjoy using -
          I think they would be interested in knowing where I located

       For example, C-Cleaner, Avast, IrfanView, VLC, ...
           are in this category - and these are all rated at the top of
their respective categories.

From: Charles-H. Schulz <>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
Cc: Florian Effenberger <>

Sorry Anne, but I'm going to have to disagree. It is not because I want to
be unpleasant or anything, but as a moderator of this list you should
perhaps know better than sending users to this kind of site.

Anyone going to the site you mention will be presented with a list of
software (mostly for Windows, others available as SaaS). As far as I can
tell *none of them* are Free and Open Source Software. Clicking on each
link will point to software that is actual freeware or donationware:
- none of them has a Free/Open Source Software licence
- none of them has an open development model

Surely you do make the difference between a software like LibreOffice and
software listed on the site? Again, I do not point this out to sound
unpleasant or unfriendly, but it is not wise to advertise this kind of
software on a users mailing list of a Free and Open Source Software.

I hope you'll understand what the issue is.


Le 13.07.2015 15:57, anne-ology a écrit :

 That is *not* a 'freeware' site;

           anyone who has gone there would know this.

       If you enjoy LO, then you should also enjoy their dedicated

From: Charles-H. Schulz <>
Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
To: anne-ology <>,

Le 11 juillet 2015 02:07:42 GMT+02:00, anne-ology <> a
écrit :

       LO is not designed to do that;

         but there are numerous programs which will do a very good job
for you -
        many of these are even free for the individual user and can be

From: KARR, DAVID <>
Date: Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to use LibreOffice to blur and save a
To: "" <>

I have a PNG image.  I need to edit the image to blur out some portions
that I don't want other people to see, and then save that modified PNG

Is this something that LibreOffice can do?  I tried running Draw and
opening the PNG.  I believe the "Smooth" operation is what I need.  I
see this in the "Filter" dropdown when I click on the image, but I'm
sure what to do with that.

I'm guessing if I can figure out how to properly modify the image, I
use the "Save Image ..." menu item in the context menu to save the
PNG.  Is this correct?


Sorry to nitpick here but I am not sure we want to recommend freeware (and
not free and open source software) to our users. Many Freeware download
sites are famous to bundle spyware in the software they distribute.

I am a bit surprized to see this "techsupportalert" being mentioned
times by an actual moderator of this mailing list.

There are a few websites listing free and open source software:

And many more.


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