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I may be overestimating the simplicity of Base, but I suspect Base will
be far, far simpler than creating a Django project.

A Django project means actual coding, and a lot of it. Yes I know how
simple Django is, but it still requires a decent amount of coding. As I
understand it, Joel isn't a programmer, and if he is struggling to have
enough time to learn about databases and Base, he surely doesn't have
time to learn to be a programmer just for this.

Even if he was a programmer already, developing it in Django will
probably take longer than developing it in Base. In fact, I suspect it
would be faster for me to develop this sort of thing in Base than in
Django, and I'm a programmer with almost no experience in Base
(admittedly not much experience in Django per se, but some in other
frameworks like Django). But as I said, I may be overestimating the
simplicity of Base.

Learning to program, and learning something like Django, are both
worthy pursuits in their own right, and will allow one to make
applications such as this one and much more complex ones, but for a
simple home hobby system, I'm not sure that sort of input is warranted.

Perhaps looking at how Django is put together will help with your
understanding of databases and data access, but even that will require
a fair input of time and effort.

Suggestions such as this, though, are great. Even if they don't get
chosen as part of the solution, or are in fact not really directly
applicable, they still add ideas, and help one think outside the box a

Again, YMMV, this is just IMHO.


On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 06:44:07 -0700
Mark Phillips <> wrote:


A suggestion from left field, but it will help you in the long run.
Take a look at the django project -
It is a framework for creating database driven web sites. It is very
easy to use and very powerful. The framework automatically creates
all the plumbing you need to build a project (such as database
tables), and allows you, the designer, to focus on the higher level
problems of your design (what the page views should look like). The
user community is very helpful. There are also many inexpensive
hosting options for a public facing dajngo project, or you can just
run it locally on your own machine.

Try the tutorial and you will see how easy it is to use -

Good luck!


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Oogie McGuire <>

On Aug 10, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Joel Madero <>

FWIW, the typical "heavy reader" will take 210 years to read a
million pages:
*  "Heavy Reader" being defined as reading 17 books per year.
*  A book is defined as 280 pages (64,000 words) long.

Oh Gosh, what do they call folks like me? <GG>

I average 64+ books a year, 1 a week plus one a month. Down a bit
this year due to textbooks but still… <G>

Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire
Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep LambTracker - Open Source SW for
Shepherds Paonia, CO USA

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