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Hi :)
openSuSE probably allows you to install all the basic Microsquish fonts in
a single package.  In Ubuntu it's called ttf-mscorefonts-installer although
i have a feeling that it's renamed in Ubuntu and that all other distros use
the same name as each other with only Ubuntu going it's own way.

You can probably find the correct package most easily by opening your
package-manager and then using it's search feature to look for
comic sans
or one of the other slightly unusual fonts.  I suspect that searching for
"Arial" or "Times New Roman" would probably bring up tons of free
equivalents instead and those might still have the tiny discrepancy.

Another thing to have checked is that;
Format - Page - Page
really is set to A4 just before you try to print it.  The problem is
usually the other way around, ie that Windows users are set to US Letter by
default and everyone else is set to A4.  However it sounds like it might be
the other way around for once.

At least the person sending out the document is trying to be compatible
with other people.  The Xls format is usually the one that does work with
other programs and suites.  Problems usually only happen with XlsX.
However all editable formats, especially Microsquish ones, do have slight
differences on different machines.

Kingsoft is trying to follow along behind Microsquish Office but is always
lagging behind and can't innovate or get ahead.  That alone could lead it
to slowly die through stagnation.  Another potential problem with Kingsoft
is that if it keeps following MS Office tooo closely then MS might be able
to shut it down due to copyright violations.  Being based in China might
protect them from that but it might become difficult to use or develop (or
translate) in the rest of the world.  Right now it is a good temporary
solution to have alongside LibreOffice.  There is nothing forcing you to
have only 1, unless your machine is VERY low spec.

I think i would use Kingsoft ONLY if i had big problems with a specific
document in LO and even then only use it to convert DocX or XlsX into a
better format for LO to use.  So far i've been fairly lucky.

Anyway, glad to hear you fixed the immediate problem!
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)

On 3 August 2014 14:48, Spencer Graves <> wrote:

On 8/3/2014 4:00 AM, Mark Bourne wrote:

Albert Oszkó wrote:

Hi all,

I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help
previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer
yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list

In every month  I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be
filled,  then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original
document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not
xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when
it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page.
I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package
was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability,
so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized
that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply
ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a
lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it.
The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened
my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a
new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page).

Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed:
Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was
represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to
Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but
the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it?

So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the
reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document

I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3

Any hints and opinions are welcome.

It sounds like the form just about fits on a page for the original
author. Any slight difference in fonts, spacing etc. could push the last
row onto a second page. Similarly, if the sheet only just fits the width of
a page, the last column can get pushed off by slight variations. Even
different versions of MS Excel can end up rendering the same document
slightly differently. Particularly if you don't have the same fonts
installed as are used in the document, in which case substitutes are used.

A few potential workarounds:
1. Format > Page > Sheet > Scale > Fit ... on number of pages > 1
2. Format > Page > Page, Slightly reduce top and bottom margins
3. Slightly reduce the height of one or more blank rows (if any) being
used for spacing.

Ideally get the original author to make sure the form fits on a single
page with plenty of space to spare (horizontally as well as vertically), so
you (and others) don't have to keep adjusting it every time. That will help
ensure the form is usable across different systems and software versions.

      Might it be feasible to explain the problem to the original source
of that Excel file and ask if it could be tested in LO ;-)

      As Mark suggested, it might still not solve the problem if the
original source has some other difference with what you have. However, it
should get you closer -- and it could help spread awareness of LO ;-)
 [Some governmental entities in France now use LO, not MS.  I'm told that
Google employees routinely use either Linux or Max OS, not Windows.  And
Google pays software developers to support Linux development to fix bugs
that are problems for them and introduce new features they want.  Large
organizations can do that and still save money from what they are currently
paying MS.]



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