Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book

Tom Davies <tomcecf -AT- gmail.com>
Sat, 19 Apr 2014 00:38:27 +0100

Hi :)
From the "Portable Apps"
http://portableapps.com/
http://portableapps.com/about/what_is_a_portable_app

"A portable app works from any device (..., cloud drive, ..., etc)" but
i've never heard from anyone who has tried installing their portable apps
to a Cloud.  Each Chromebook links to it's own Cloud space doesn't it?
Note there are a few caveats
http://portableapps.com/support/libreoffice_portable#additional_options

Also i suspect that the WinPenPack probably offers a similar option but
they don't go on about it as much.  The advantage with WinPenPack is that
they tend to get each release of LibreOffice out there quickly and they
don't skip any releases.


Wrt Chromium, my understand was that Chrome was the OS and Chromium was the
web-browser but apparently it's not quite as simple as that;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_%28web_browser%29
Regards from
Tom :)




On 18 April 2014 22:14, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
<webmaster@krackedpress.com>wrote:


Yes, it is not a Chrome list, but as the OP, I wondered about Chrome and
LO and it seems like that will not happen in the foreseeable future.  I
would like to see some app that would be based on LO/AOO and deal with more
format options than Google Docs have to offer us.  We need to get into that
fast growing market, if at all possible.  Of course, that would be
difficult since Chrome apps are more web based [i.e. HTML, Javascript,
etc.] programming instead of the C++/Python/etc. based programming.  Or at
least that is what I was lead to believe.

Chromium?  Well you can get Chrome for Linux now.  So some of the Chrome
browser info now deals with Linux users, as well as Windows and ChromeBook
users.  If it offered with Mac OSX, iOS, and Android OSs?


On 04/18/2014 02:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think the documentation assumes that anyone using Gnu&Linux, or
anything else other than Windows is canny enough to know how to use
whatever they have got to open a chromium web-browser, or at least arsy
enough to try.

Like many support shops daren't mention that they are great at fixing
non-Window2s systems because that would scare off potential Windows users

As said before this is NOT a support-list for Chromebooks, or any other
OS.  We often can help but sometimes it is better to visit the support
lists for the actual product/OS that you are using.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 18 April 2014 17:28, Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
webmaster@krackedpress.com <mailto:webmaster@krackedpress.com>> wrote:


    Well the lady showed up and she tells me that her printer will
    plug into the router, but I did not set it up since I would have
    to go to her place to do so.

    There is some confusion about whether or not she needs to set the
    printers up with the Win7 system first, according to the
    documentation.  What I did was open Chrome in my Win7 system and
    "allowed" the printers to be used.  Then they showed up on the
    ChromeBook.  I tried to use the option for printers that have
    Chrome Cloud service supported, but it would not work on the
    printer I tried.   The printer's own setup screens tried to do the
    task, but it kept failing to set up the internal "cloud" support.

    So if you do not have a Windows XP and later OS to set thing up in
    their Chrome browser's settings/printer option[s], then it looks
    like it will not work properly.  Or at least for me.

    ---

    As for the changing the Samsung Chrome device to Ubuntu or other
    OS, well right now that is not an option.  Now that I got the
    router setup and created a Gmail account for her, since that is
    required to use the device properly, all she has to do is plug the
    router into the Cable Modem and go from there.

    As for an LO app for Google Chrome, Android tablet, or other "app"
    type of package. . .
    Well it would be nice to have LO represented, even if it is a
    stripped down version.

    Yes it would be a big issue to create them.
    YET if the market increases for Android tablet app, iOS app, or
    Chrome OS and Chrome Browser app, then there may be a need - in
    the future sometime.

    Android's market share is increasing while Windows is going down.
    Chrome OS is increasing as well, but its market share is not as
    strong as Android [so far].  IT would be nice to get into that
    market share for LO, when possible.

    With Win XP loosing support, articles are now recommending these
    user to switch over to Linux Mint with MATE desktop.  This may
    help with the Linux marker share to increase.  That will take all
    of the MSO users off those older/slower devices and give LO a
    boost.  Mint 16 has 4.1.3[?] in their install disc "repository".
    Ubuntu 14.04LTS has 4.2.3.3, if I remember correctly [came out
    yesterday, but MATE is not ready for it YET, so I am waiting for
    MATE before I use it by default].

    I do not know how well LO works with Win8, since I only used it
    for about 10 minutes for trying to setup a package for someone and
    thought it was worse than Unity, and I hate Unity.

    Windows - yes
    Linux - deb and rpm
    Mac - Intel only for the newer versions

    Android tablets - use an AOO/OOo based or other version[s] for
    Android that is available, for now.
    iOS - told it is being looked into
    ChromeOS - not in the future plans, so far.


    On 04/18/2014 08:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

        Hi :)
        This link might help setup the printer properly for Chromebooks
        https://support.google.com/cloudprint/answer/1686197?rd=1
        Errr, notice that is an https site!
        Regards from
        Tom :)




        On 18 April 2014 11:14, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com
        <mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Hi :)
            Is she likely to be happier with Windows 8?  Just because
            this mailing
            list doesn't know how to configure Chrome to print to her
            printer doesn't
            mean it can't be done r isn't easy.  It just means we
            don't have the
            expertise here yet.

            Maybe this link?
            https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1069693?rd=1

            Try the official Chromebooks website to find
            documentation, user-support,
            official forums etc.  Perhaps try finding a Chrome forum!
            or google-it.
              I'm not sure if these links help
            https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HowTo%20set-up%20a%20printer%
20for%20Chromebook
            http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os

            Chances are that her printer wont work with Win8 either
            and maybe not even
            with Win7.  The Windows route means buying new stuff to
            replace perfectly
            decent older stuff.

            Staying with Windows means a radical change for almost
            everyone.  Moving
            to Gnu&Linux is actually less of a change for most.
             Chances are that she
            would be more "at home" with Chrome than with Win8 or
            Win9.  She could
            always buy into Win7 for the 1 year that's got left and
            then buy into
            Win8/9 in a year or so.  Or stay with a more familiar
            interface by going to
            Gnu&Linux
            Regards from
            Tom :)





            On 18 April 2014 00:38, Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
            webmaster@krackedpress.com
            <mailto:webmaster@krackedpress.com>> wrote:

                yes, but the lady I am dealing with is a person who
                did not know the
                difference between ChromeOS and Windows, let alone
                would want to try to run
                Ubuntu off of her Chrome Book.

                She does not understand even how to set up a wifi
                connection properly on
                a Windows laptop, or install and keep up security
                software properly.

                Yes a Chrome Book might be a nice idea for some but
                without printer
                support and software support I need, and she needs, it
                is not the best deal.

                I have not told her that this device will not work
                with her Canon Printer.




                On 04/17/2014 11:47 AM, Don Myers wrote:

                    I'm quite pleased with Crouton. It has some quirks
                    here and there, but
                    once
                    you understand them, it really works well. Neither
                    Crouton or Chrubuntu
                    are
                    exactly like using Ubuntu on a typical desktop of
                    notebook, but I do
                    consider both of them to be young projects which
                    will only get better
                    with
                    time. My wife has been thinking about tablet for
                    several months now.
                    After
                    seeing my chromebook, yesterday she asked for one
                    for her birthday!

                    Don


                    On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Cley Faye
                    <cleyfaye@gmail.com <mailto:cleyfaye@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:

                      2014-04-17 16:40 GMT+02:00 Don Myers
                    <donmyers@myersfarm.com
                    <mailto:donmyers@myersfarm.com>>:

                          The other way is to use Crouton, where you
                        are actually running Ubuntu

                            through the Chrome OS

                        Ah, thanks for that. The name slipped my
                        mind, and I might need this
                        soon
                        too, for roughly the same reason :)

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