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Hi :)
We don't all agree on anything very much.  It's only through
discussions that we arrive at a mutual understanding.  One of the
great things about FOSS, imo, is that we can all have very different
ideas about how to do things and yet work together.  It's often
precisely because someone thinks differently that things can move
forwards and avoid getting stale.

I think a few of us are finding our position about promotion of ODF is
changing as a result of one of these threads.  People have put
forwards points that i hadn't thought about much before.  Hopefully we
will reach a sensible position either this time or in a few weeks when
the issue crops up again after we've had change to absorb the points
and see how it plays out in the world around us.

Wrt migrations vs switch-over i think we need to be very strong and
quite forceful about migration being the better route.  Switch-over is
the way the MS world does things and it means the slightest little
petty problem can be a major stumbling block.  In the MS world the
user gets blamed and the onus is on the user to work it out or get
training.  There is no choice offered.  When people are trying to move
to FOSS it's those tiny bumps that leads to people giving up on FOSS.
If people migrate instead then they seldom even notice such hiccups,
it's all a lot smoother and they begin to realise that FOSS is better.

So i think we need to be quite quick to jump on it when people talk
about replacing MS Office with LibreOffice/OpenOffice and make it
clear that people can keep their old version of MS Office running
Regards from
Tom :)

On 1 December 2013 15:07, M. Fioretti <> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 11:41:58 AM +0000, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Retraining to use the ribbon-bar is easier than reformating tons of
documents but why reformat them?  It's possible to keep the old
version of MS Office and install LibreOffice alongside it.

Then new things can be gradually moved to LibreOffice.  Migration
rather than switch-over.

sorry Tom but... do you need that **I** don't know this stuff, or
would be against it? I am talking of how the rest of the world thinks,
not us already on lists like this.


M. Fioretti         

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