Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java

On 10/31/2013 05:02 PM, Marc Grober wrote:
> It looks like the thread on addressing operating LO 4 under OSX
> Mavericks may have taken a small detour.
>
> Yes, Java is a bit of a disaster on OSX, and yes once you upgrade Apple
> blows away your java install so you have to start all over (but will
> prompt you to install their java.)
>
> Assuming you accept their invitation on reboot (the install will invite
> you to install an Apple Java jre) and then try to run LO (4.1.2.3) you

Does the OS X upgrade itself indeed mention the possibility to download 
an Apple JRE?  I never noticed that.

> will likely get an error message that allows you to either install a
> java (the install does not say what it is installing, nor from where) or
> quits.

What I know is the following:

After upgrade or fresh install of OS X (at least since 10.7, IIRC), a 
java executable is installed that is merely a stub, bringing up a dialog 
inviting you to download and install the real Apple JRE 6.

When LO is run on such a "stub-only" machine, as soon as it tries to 
detect a JRE (which might be rather sooner than expected, see the 
"LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)" thread on this mailing 
list), it will run the stub java executable and thus trigger the dialog.

Now, for some it reportedly works fine to download and install the Apple 
JRE via the dialog and continue working with LO (or even not download 
and install it, and keep living with LO nagging you about a missing 
JRE).  But for some LO reportedly keeps crashing from that dialog 
onwards, no matter how they interact with that dialog.  But I only know 
about that from here-say, and have never seen the problem myself, and 
never seen a backtrace of the crashing LO that could give us a clue 
what's going on there.

(I "wasted" my opportunity to find out for myself when soon after 
upgrading to OS X 10.9 I got confronted with the java stub dialog 
outside the LO context and downloaded/installed it before I came around 
to start LO.)

But since, as described in the "LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 
(Mavericks)" thread on this mailing list, one unexpected side-effect of 
bundling the Wiki Publisher extension with LO on Mac OS X is that LO 
tries to detect a JRE as soon as you type a key in Writer, we decided to 
deliver LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X (from 
<http://www.libreoffice.org/download>) without a bundled Wiki Publisher 
extension.  That should help to somewhat mitigate the problem and have 
less people be annoyed by the problem.

Stephan

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