Dnia 2013-10-26, o godz. 12:42:10
Ady <email@example.com> napisal(a):
Bug report #70886 opened:
Confirmed, added bibisect log.
It's now up to developers to pick up challenge and fix that issue.
I disagree. The "Detective" feature is already very crippled in
LibreOffice. This inadequate behavior makes it even harder and
generates more confusion, specially when using complex spreadsheets
(which is when users most need the feature). If anything, IMHO the
"Detective" feature should be very much improved (not left with
inadequate behaviors because it is already crippled anyway).
I never said that this bug SHOULD be left open and not fixed in
reasonable time. I only explained why some people might skip over this
one and devote their time to other issues, which they see as higher
As of improving "detective" - well, it could use some improvements,
like almost any other part of suite. In software development, there is
always something to do. In free software, usually there are very
limited resources (manpower, infrastructure, money, time etc.). That
means we end up with more work than we can complete. And that means
that "should" is not really helpful, because it does not bring us any
closer to out goals. The question is not "what should be done?", but
"who may do that?".
Thank you all for your replies, and special thanks to Miroslaw for
his bibisect and follow up at
FWIW, I'd like to clarify my prior comments.
1_ If / when this issue gets the developers' attention, I'd like for
them to find a *real* solution (and even improvements), not just a
2_ If a solution can't be achieved for some technical reason (other
than availability of developers' time), I suggested a possible
alternative behavior: instead of leaving the inadequate arrows
displayed as "normal", change their color until they are displayed
adequately again. This suggestion was meant not as my preferred
desired method to solve/workaround the issue, but only as a trigger
to alternative thoughts (whether for this particular issue or for
potential future improvements to the "Detective" trace features),
"just in case".
3_ When I said that the (IMO) insufficient "Detective" features
should not be used as a reason not to bother with this issue either,
my intention was to explain why, IMO, that's not the best potential
reasoning, for whoever would read this email topic (specially for
developers that might be tempted to think that way).
4_ Of course I understand that this issue might never get resolved
just because developers might think this matter deserves low
priority. My answer is that, at some point, the "Detective" feature
should be greatly improved, not just as my subjective "desire", but
as a high priority for Calc users in practical objective terms.
Of course developers might choose to invest their time in whatever
they want; no complains. For users, there are other spreadsheet tools
capable of performing "just fine" with simple sheets and/or simple
In my experience, the "Detective" (trace) feature is crucial for
users with either complex formulas, multiple sheets and/or many
different relations between many cells. IMO, if Calc is to be used
for something more than just relatively simple cases, then in
practical terms the "Detective" feature *must* be improved (a.k.a.,
not such a low priority). I am aware that elevating the development
priority of the "Detective" feature means lowering it for some other
I am just expressing my desire and opinion (and my reasoning as to
why this bug should be solved), _independently_ (not against nor in
opposition) of what has been expressed in prior emails / posts in
this topic. I am hoping this objective reasoning will also trigger
some developer(s) to act on it.
Again, thank you all.
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