Re: [libreoffice-users] Error saving the document ...

Hi :)  
You might find much better guidance about all this on the international translators list.  They 
tend to speak/write English almost all the time.  I think their address is 
L10n@Global.LibreOffice.Org

If you think you have found the cause and that makes it awkward for you then perhaps start a fresh 
new document and try your theory out.  If it makes the new document unable to save and even crashes 
it then the L10n team might have some better work-around.  If it doesn't then chalk it up to "some 
weirdness" and carry on as before = in which case keep saving fairly often to avoid having to 
retype hours worth of work.  

I tend to find that something that took hours to write first time seldom takes more than 15-20mins 
because i already know which wrong turns to avoid, which decisions i took and what problems i 
encountered.  Generally i don't directly remember but my fingers seem to know all by themselves.  

Regards from  
Tom :)  



On Wednesday, 9 October 2013, 6:31, John Jason Jordan <johnxj@comcast.net> wrote:
 
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 03:53:14 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> dijo:

> Hi :)
> I am not sure what the problem is but might be able to shed some light
> on the error message.  
>
> If you create a copy of the file and rename the file-name's ending
> from .odt to .zip and then double-click on the .zip then the file
> opens in your archive manager. (Ok, so in Xubuntu and most other
> Gnu&Linuxes (Linii?) that can be done without renaming the
> file-ending.  Just right-click and choose "Open With" - "Archive
> Manager")
>
> You will now see several .xml files and several folders (such as
> "images") inside your file.  The number 1 most crucial file is the
> "contents.xml", which you can open with a text-editor such as Leafpad.
>  Somewhere in Leafpad it tells you that the file is open as a "Plain
> text" file.  Click on that and a drop-down should appear allowing you
> to choose different languages and hopefully one of those is "xml".  If
> you choose "xml" then Leafpad cleverly figures out all the different
> bits of xml-coding and colour codes them allowing you to more easily
> spot the real text you typed in buried in amongst all the xml coding.  
>
> My guess is that somehow Writer managed to get in a muddle and
> stuffed-up it's coding somehow.  Perhaps a coding bracket didn't get
> closed or something else weird.  I think i vaguely remember something
> like this happening once before in the last 3 years but it's a tad
> rare.  

Thanks for the explanation. If it happens again I'll try File Roller or
something. 

In the meantime, I think I know what caused it. I had been typing in
Greek and suddenly needed a gave accent over an iota. Silly me, I am
new to Greek keyboards and did not realize that the Greek (Simple)
keyboard I was using did not have polytonic diacritics. Being in a
hurry I just used Insert Character and placed a gave accent on the iota
as a combining diacritic. It was shortly thereafter that I discovered
that I could not save the document.

Now, I have been using combining diacritics with LibreOffice and
formerly with OpenOffice.org for many years, and there has never been a
problem. I work in linguistics where I need several dozen different
diacritics that compose keys never heard of. Ctrl-Shift-u is ingrained
into my fingers and I keep a list of the code points at hand. I use a
*lot* of combining diacritics, so if I say there has never been a
problem, I mean the system has always been rock solid. I am a bit
worried that this experience might mean that something has changed and
a bug has been introduced.

And speaking of Ctrl-Shift-u, it doesn't work when the Greek keyboard
is selected. Nor does Ctrl-Shift-upsilon (the u key actually produces
a theta). I had to use Insert Character instead to add my combining
diacritic. I suppose I need to find a Linux help page for Greek users
in order to learn what the equivalent key combination is on a Greek
keyboard. Except I'm just beginning Greek and the instructions would be,
umm ... Greek to me.


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