Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/11/2013 09:50 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> Kracked_P_P wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > First - - -
> > Everyone has their own opinion of which font is the most "wonderful" one
> > that they have used.
> >
> > Second - - -
> > There are a few "ideas" on what a "book" font is, but for me a book font
> > is one that is really easy to read for extended periods, like in a
> > hardcover novel or paperback.
> >
> > Third - - -
> > Times-Roman - Times is the generic font name.  Many fonts started from
> > the "generic Times" look.  Roman is actually a type of style for the
> > most part.  Some equate Roman as the same as "normal" or "un-styled".
> > Times-Roman is a "classic" font that is used by many computer systems as
> > the original default font.  There are other "Times" fonts, including
> > "Times", "Times New Roman" "Times Europa", "Old Times", just to name a
> > few that I have seen or have in my font collection.
> >
> > If you really want to see how many "Times" fonts there are, or which
> > fonts came from Times, then go to the Wiki page and you may be
> > surprised.  I do not remember which version of Times is part of the MS
> > core fonts that is installed with Windows, or installed in Linux with
> > the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package.
> >
> > Forth - - -
> > To be honest, many fonts have one file for each style.  One for Bold,
> > for Italic, Bold Italic, etc., etc..
> >
> > For LinLibertine:
> >
> > _R - regular
> > _RI - italic
> > _RB - bold
> > _RZ - semi-bold
> > _RZI - semi-bold italic
> > _aBL - bold slanted
> >
> > Each of the files are a different style for the font.
> > For "LinLibertine", I have 16 different styles
> > LinLibertine and LinLibertine G are two different fonts.
> > I have only 6 for "G" so far.
> >
> > This is just the nature of the font file world.  If you have a font with
> > different styles, either you have that style file installed OR you must
> > have a software package that takes a font and generates the style you
> > need internally.  There are some "complex" fonts that have more than one
> > style in a single file, but sometimes they are not the easiest to find
> > and sometimes not easy for a package to use properly.
>
> Great response. I can't add much except a bit of history about the Times font. It was originally 
> commissioned by the Times of London newspaper, which wanted a typeface having "strength of line 
> and economy of space." It runs a little small for its nominal size and is somewhat condensed left 
> to right, meaning its letters are narrower than those found in other fonts. To see the 
> difference, type a line in 12 point Times and then the same line directly below it in something 
> like 12 point Palatino, or Century, or Bookman. The second line will look enormous compared to 
> the Times. The United States Supreme Court requires court briefs to be written in an 11 point 
> Roman font. It warns lawyers that if they submit a brief in 11 point Times, the brief will be 
> rejected because "11 point Times" is actually smaller than 11 points.
>
> The flavor of Times that comes with MS Windows is "Times New Roman."
>
> You will rarely see books printed in Times, the reason being it is intended for short bursts of 
> reading, as in a newspaper article. Books tend to use fonts that are fuller and not condensed. 
> Popular choices are Palatino, Century Schoolbook, Garamond, Minion, and Goudy Old Style.
>
> Lastly, in addition to the font files (TTF) in Doug's list of files, the files having a "Tex" 
> extension are probably some form of TeX/LaTeX document. I don't believe they would be fonts.
>
> Virgil
>                                         

For me, I try to stay away from fonts that require me to pay for them. 
If it came with an OS, that is one thing, but if I have to pay for them
myself for each and every style, like you do with Adobe's fonts, than no
thanks.

I do have an older Adobe font library, since I was given it to deal with
a large, long, project over 10 years ago. 

You can get free versions of your fonts, or very good look-a-likes,
online at various sites.  I have used "Schoolbook" and Garamond before
though.  I believe Minion is an Adobe font.  I will have to check about
Goudy Old Style.  I think I have used it before.

Were you talking about Times Roman or just Roman for the font name.  I
have a font that is called "Roman", and it is a serif font.  For those
who do not know much about fonts, all of this may be a little confusing
to them.  Well, if you have a large font collection, it gets worse some
times.  That is why I believe that the sites that give you good
substitution font options for ones that you do not have can be a good
thing for people. 

As I stated before, if you are going to have something published, find
out which font[s] they use and then give then your document/manuscript
in that font, if they do not want a plain text file. 


I have not worked on this for over a year, but here is a sample from my
"work in progress" 50+ page font substitution guide.   I have a lot of
formatting and editing to do before I go out and find more.  I even have
a list that tells you which Windows installed fonts match Mac installed
fonts, but that was created many years ago and no longer up-to-date.

The first name is the font and the list is replacement types.  I get
this information from various online sources, so I do not really know
how good they are. In the document, it is in 2 columns, but sometimes
emails mes that up.

Many of the font names I never heard of, while others I have.

----------------

Americana    
           
Amherst
American Classic
Aston
Colonial
Concord
Flareserif 721
Freedom
Independence

---------------

Antique Olive           

Incised 901 BT
Provence BT
Alphavanti
Berry Roman
Gibson Antique
Oliva
Olivanti
Olive Antique
Oliver
Olivette
Olivette Antique
Olivia

--------------------

Baskerville             

New Baskerville
Baskenland
Baskerline
Basque
Beaumont
Transitional 401

------------------------

Copperplate           

Alexei
Campaign

--------------------------

Copperplate Gothic       

Copper Pot
Atalante
Gothic No.29
Gothic No.30
Lining Plate Gothic
Mimosa
Spartan

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Corolla          

Aster
Albany
Astro
Aztec
Dutch 823




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