Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer

Hi :)
This is a public mailing list so it's a bit informal.  Hopefully several people will help steer 
this to arrive at a right answer that suits you.  We might have to ask a few 'dumb' questions to 
try to clarify things along the way.  Feel free to do the same.  
1.  Have you considered using Calc instead?  If there is stuff outside of the tables then it might 
be easier to use Calc and then have text-boxes or "merge cells" to contain the normal text.  
2.  I take it the size of the table on page 1 grows as stuff is entered into the table?  Is that 
data re-typed in from a printed source?  if so it might be possible to get Base (database program) 
to read that source directly and produce a more dynamic report.  


Keeping it in Writer might be best for now though.  

I found that i had to delete all the newlines between the 2 tables, so that it looked like they 
were joined even though they weren't really.  Then the "merge tables" options un-"greyed out" and 
that let me really join the table together.  

In my case i had a different number of columns in each table but that didn't seem to worry it at 
all.  Then
Table - Select - table
selected all of both tables.  

It might help to toggle the back-to-front P in the toolbar so that you can see all the non-printing 
characters so that you can see the newline characters that appear when you press Enter.  That makes 
it easier to see what is going on and makes it easier to delete the right things.


The best documentation (imo) is here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
There are also video tutorials for this and other OpenSource programs at 
http://spoken-tutorial.org/
The quality of the English in the ones i watched was better than that spoken in most places around 
where i live.  There are other guides and Faqs that might also prove useful and there is always the 
in-built help too (F1 or the Help menu)


Please feel free to write in to the list as soon as a problem arises even before you have had a 
look around for yourself.  Hopefully you might find the answer before we do (by googling it or 
through documentation or something) and if you do please let the list know the crucial bit of the 
answer.  


Don't worry about switching programs to get the odd one or few things done.  During a migration 
from one program to another it is quite normal to fully understand the old way and not yet be fully 
familiar with the new one.  As time goes on you find less and less need to go back to the old 
program and may even find yourself batching up a few jobs for final tweaks in the old program.  

Most of us have both LO and MS Office on our systems.  Often it's just to help out colleagues with 
their problems when they don't know how to do something in MSO, or to check how things look.  
Usually it's an old version.  Sometimes employers like to buy the newest thing even though we don't 
really use it.  After using LO for even a little while you will probably find that you gain a MUCH 
deeper understanding of how MSO works and your colleagues will seek your guidance.  So, don't worry 
about them ridiculing you right now, to quote Gandhi "First they ignore you, then they laugh at 
you, then they fight you, then you win".  

MS Office doesn't usually allow people to have 2 versions of their Office Suite on the same 
machine.  A normal install will typically wipe out the previous version.  So when they try to 
upgrade to MSO 2013 they will be really stuck with tons of things they don't know how to do and no 
way of going back to the old version to get them done there.  Typically they will need to go off on 
training courses and all sorts costing either than or the company a lot of money just in order to 
do what they could do on the older versions.  MSO prefers to make people spend money and make life 
difficult rather than give them an easy migration route.  

So, feel free to ask and if you find the answer first then just let us know!  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





________________________________
 From: Robert Burnett <rob@artl.org.uk>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2013, 16:25
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer
 


Good afternoon, after 2-3 hours today, no idea how many hours on other days on the following 
problem, so I have decided to contact you to find the solution.

Problem, I use writer and have a 2 page document that holds a table on each page.  As time passes 
the size of the table on page one changes so that rows end up in page two.  When this happens I do 
a table split and everything is fine.

The problem arises when I attempt to remove the gap/break between the tables, this occurs when I 
need to join the tables on page two.  The same problem albeit on page one occurs when I reduce the 
rows in the table on page one, the break rises from page two, so that I end up with a gap between 
two tables on the bottom of page one.  The table merge is greyed out, no other action works so I 
have to close the document, open the document in microsoft and all I do is, place the cursor in the 
gap and hit cut, gap gone and the two tables are now joined, on either page.

How can I manage this in Libreoffice as it is embarrassing to have to close one software program 
and open another for such a simple task when other people are observing as it indicates a) I don't 
know what I am doing or b) libreoffice has a software issue.

Your assistance would be appreciated in providing a solution, please

Regards

Robert 
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