Re: [libreoffice-users] converting .odt to .doc

Hi :)
I think the best answer is to get the other people to use LibreOffice or OpenOffice if they want to 
collaborate with you.  

Perhaps just distribute as Odt and point out that the newer version of MSO can handle it and even 
MSO 2010 and 2007 can handle Odt (even though those last 2 can't handle Ods).  Perhaps point out 
that if they don't want to buy the latest MSO then LibreOffice is free.  

There is always the "Portable Apps" option
http://www.libreoffice.org/index.php/download/portable/
if they are not allowed to install stuff on their machines.  Note that can apparently also be 
installed to a Cloud but i've not heard from anyone who has done that.  So it might be fantastic 
and completely trouble-free.  

I think 2nd best idea was getting other people to use Google Drive and Google Docs.  Then the 
format is irrelevant.  They probably wouldn't even notice that they are using Odt then.  


A lot of the bug-fixing currently done is to try to fix compatibility issues with MSO's formats.  
So, yes post bug-reports but also try more recent versions of LibreOffice as the problem might 
already have been fixed.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves@prodsyse.com>
> To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
> Cc: tamas czovek <tamasczovek@yahoo.com>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 16:22
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] converting .odt to .doc
>
>
>        I've experienced similar problems.  The work-arounds depend on 
> your objectives.
>
>
>              * Fifteen years ago, I had problems with fundamental 
> incompatibilities between the PC and Mac versions of MS Word.  The work 
> around then was I got a Mac, because my primary collaborators at that 
> time all had Macs.
>
>
>              * If you only have one or a small number of regular 
> collaborators, can you convince them to install LibreOffice parallel to 
> MS Office?  Then you can distribute files in LO office and let them 
> worry about the incompatibilities.
>
>
>              * Alternatively, might it be feasible to use Google Drive?  
> For collaborative document development, that could be the best option.  
> Unfortunately, it's not a full featured office suite, and some features 
> may not be available or easy to learn how to use.  I've used it to great 
> advantage in some cases.  I'm not sure, but there may be commercial 
> products that may be better.
>
>
>              * None of the above will work if you perceive a need to 
> distribute something in *.doc format to people you don't know. In 
> situations like that, I've distributed the same document in *.pdf and 
> *.doc formats.  For the *.doc format, I've played around with the 
> original adding some extra blank lines between page or column breaks so 
> the visual formatting could be retained through one cycle of saving to 
> *.doc and reopening in *.odt but might not be retained through a second 
> cycle.
>
>
>              * For the long term, I'd encourage you to submit bug 
> reports.  For that, you need a replicable example -- and the simpler the 
> better.  I'll try to create time to do that with one of my examples;  I 
> should have done it a couple of years ago.  If multiple people submit 
> bug reports with similar but different examples, the combined effect 
> will increase the chances that one of the core developers will perceive 
> a need to prioritize fixing the problem.  If you are a software 
> developer and you have time, you could volunteer to help find the lines 
> of code that generate the problem and suggest fixes.  I've contributed 
> code to R (www.r-project.org), but I don't perceive a large enough need 
> to volunteer my time for this.
>
>
>        Hope this helps.
>        Spencer
>
>
> On 8/21/2013 2:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Ouch!!  If Doc doesn't work either then that makes it difficult :(
> >
> > Sorry i don't know how to help with this.
> >
> > Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice 3.5.7 should be fine.  I take it that the 3.5.7 is the one that is 
> > installed by default in Ubuntu 12.04?  Is it possible to try out the 4.0.4 without losing your 
> > 3.5.7?   Perhaps by installing on a virtual machine or 2nd machine or something?
> >
> > Apols and regards from
> >
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: tamas czovek <tamasczovek@yahoo.com>
> > > To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 10:22
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] converting .odt to .doc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for this Tom.
> > > Unfortunately, Doc doesn't work fine either. I have encountered this problem with virtually all 
> > > MS formats, XP and earlier including. Converting to them corrupts formatting.
> > > Regards,
> > > Tamas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > To: tamas czovek <tamasczovek@yahoo.com>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> > > > <users@global.libreoffice.org>; "users+help@global.libreoffice.org" 
> > > > <users+help@global.libreoffice.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 11:12
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] converting .odt to .doc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi :)
> > > > My guess is that Doc works fine and it's only DocX that gets messed up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keep originals in Odt and edit the Odts.  As you already do.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Only convert to the Doc, the older MS format (2003, Xp, and earlier) .  Avoid the recent DocX 
> > > > from 2007, 2010, 2013 and so on.  Pdf is also useful so that people get to see the document 
> > > > exactly the way it appears on your machine (assuming they have the right fonts)
> > > >
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: tamas czovek <tamasczovek@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>; 
> > > > > "users+help@global.libreoffice.org" <users+help@global.libreoffice.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013, 9:44
> > > > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] converting .odt to .doc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > When I convert .odt documents to .doc or .docx the original formatting gets
> > > > messed up with, in .doc, half the footnotes lost sometimes. How can I
> > > > prevent this from
> >    happening? I use Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice 3.5.7.2.
> > > > > Wishes,
> > > > > Tamas
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