Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Tom Davies <tomdavies04 -AT- yahoo.co.uk>
Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:39:36 +0100 (BST)

Hi :)
That progress is sometimes a double-edge sword.  Many of us stick with older branches, or in other 
word only upgrade most of our machines to the newer branch when the newer one reaches x.x.3 or 
x.x.4.  

On the other hand AOO is more stable for more of it's branches life-cycles precisely because they 
don't develop so fast, which kinda makes it a tad dull and unlikely to succeed in the longer term 
once everyone else has left it so far behind.  

There is a guide somewhere on how to get 2 versions of these suites working alongside each other.  
It's not trivial, unless you have done it before in which case it's probably quite easy
Regards from 
Tom :)

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From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 20:15
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extension. When I first 
downloaded it, it would not properly install into my LO 3.6.7. I then 
uninstalled my AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 4.0. The writer2epub extension then 
installed into LO.

It appears (as others have alluded) that LO and AOO have some conflicts when 
installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond 
my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm 
happy to commit to just one of the suites.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Virgil Arrington
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:58 PM
To: Tom Davies
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

I just redid the Writer2epub test with my theology paper after applying
default LO styles. It worked a *lot* better. I really liked the way it
handled the default "Text Body" style by not indenting the first paragraph
after a heading and then indenting subsequent paragraphs. That is excellent
typography (a standard in LaTeX) and often missing in EPUB files. However,
it still ignored my attempt to apply outline numbering to the default
Heading styles. But, it did recognize the heading styles for my table of
contents and navigation keys on my Kindle.

As you allude, this is a good tool as long as you understand what it will,
and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try
to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM
To: Virgil Arrington
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Hi :)
That sounds a lot like LaTeX being best if you stick with their defaults so
it kinda makes sense to me.  I think the Docs Team (i think mostly Dan &
Jean wasn't it?) experimented with a few ways of getting ePubs from the
guides and they might have useful ideas about it even though it's years
later already.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 19:22
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting
the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried
doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB
output file was generated.

I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently
designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't
handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides.

I then tried it using a theology paper I wrote a few years ago. I have
several outline numbered styles, which again, Writer2epub doesn't translate
well.

I think Writer2epub will work best with a document that is designed from 
the
beginning for EPUB, but if you want to translate an existing document, you
may need to do considerable work to make it ready for the extension.

These are just my observations after a half-hour experiment.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM
To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Hi :)
Sorry, got distracted.  Here's a link
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
Regards from
Tom :)

________________________________
From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 14:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Tom,

Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying
different
ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of
fun.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM
To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

Hi :)
Has anyone successfully tried this to get ePub versions of something 
fairly
hefty such as our Published Guides?  I think it would be great if we could
get all those guides done as ePub wouldn't it?  Anyone able to give it a
go?
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: e-letter <inpost@gmail.com>
To: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
Cc: rost52 <bugquestcontri@online.de>; users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 12:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer


On 12/07/2013, Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com> wrote:

That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth 
a
process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX.


Agree, for PDF, but it seems that the future of viewing content is in
digital format via mobile devices. So for archiving to paper, LaTeX
wins and maybe epub for electronic archives.


-----Original Message-----
From: rost52
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:00 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

"As a proud papa..." I would open the document in Writer, select all 
and
set

styles to Default. Then
create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document.


By coincidence there has been a guide published to write epub
documents using LO:
http://opensource.com/life/13/8/how-create-ebook-open-source-way

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