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Hi :)  
Abiword is a lot lighter-weight than KWord and might be good for the first comparison
Regards from 
Tom :)  

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Stern <>
To: Girvin R. Herr <>
Cc: Michael Manning <>; "" 
Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013, 21:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to unprotect readonly parts of a document?

On Fri, 17 May 2013, Girvin R. Herr wrote:

 Alan Stern wrote:
 > Here's another odd thing I encountered.  Moving the cursor one
 > character at a time (using the right-arrow key), I find what appears 
 > be two hidden characters: one at the beginning of the readonly field
 > and one at its end.
 > That is, start with the cursor just to the left of the blank space
 > before the "(9)" field.  Pressing right-arrow advances the 
cursor to
 > the right of the space, leaving it on the left-hand edge of the 
 > Pressing right-arrow again doesn't move the cursor at all.  
Pressing it
 > once more advances the cursor between the '(' and '9'.
 > Alan Stern
 Did you try viewing hidden objects?
 Check the following:
 View -> Field Names
 View -> Nonprinting Characters
 View -> Hidden Paragraphs

I have tried these.  They make no difference.

 Maybe one of those will make your "hidden characters" visible and 
 you a clue as to what it is doing.


 Another more painful option could be to unzip the file and look at the 
 text to see what is there at these "hidden" characters, 
 editing it out manually.

Interesting; I didn't know one could do that.  The content.xml file 
shows the following (the "..." part is where I erased a lot of 
irrelevant material; I also wrapped a couple of long lines):

<text:span text:style-name="T3"> </text:span>
<field:fieldmark-start text:name="__Fieldmark__24_1596095481"
<field:param field:name="vnd.oasis.opendocument.field.code"
field:value=" ADDIN EN.CITE &lt;EndNote&gt; ... "/>
<field:param field:name="" 
<text:span text:style-name="T5">(9)</text:span>
<text:span text:style-name="T1"> </text:span>
<text:span text:style-name="T2">Normal again.

I don't know enough to interpret all that, but clearly there is a field 
of a sort that LibreOffice isn't ready to handle.

Is there some way to get this information from within LibreOffice 
itself?  I would that the field name and/or value should be accessible.

 Third, maybe another ODF processor, such as KDE's editor, Kword, may 
 support this readonly attribute and allow you to edit it normally.

Maybe.  I don't see where in there the field is marked as readonly.

Alan Stern

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