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       very interesting, yes indeed  ;-)

       well, the more I read this list, 'the more I seem to learn, yet the
stupider I feel'  ;-)
               (the glorified typewriter has so surpassed me)

       I note you've used a 'new' word; acronymonious seems to fit well in
this saga -
           yet I hope you didn't mis-type acrimonious  ;-)
               (oh, surely not)

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Felmon Davis <> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, anne-ology wrote:

       yikes, sounds as if I need further information -
          or need to keep studying ... ... ...  ;-)

not sure how the further discussion would be relevant to you if you just
want to use the tool. the link I gave you explains the things pdftk can do.
you can then decide if it might be useful.

the next step is to determine if you find it convenient to use.

of course, if you are also interested in how the tool is built, then
that's a different matter.

       Please update re. this / these tks whenever; I'll stay tuned  ;-)

      Ah, acronyms  ;-)
          tk :=**TK.html<>
      (well, while waiting to understand all this, my mind tends to wander
- puns are so much fun  :-)  )

don't mean to be acronymonious about it but all disciplines and
occupations use abbreviations and have specialist dictionaries -
general-purpose dictionaries won't do.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Felmon Davis <> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Girvin Herr wrote:


Looks like pdftk is written in Java.****Pdftk<**Pdftk>

So the gui (Graphical User Interface) is whatever the Java Runtime
Environment (JRE) interfaces with.  From my experience, it isn't pretty,
but functional.

I noticed there are some other source files and some 3rd-party code in
the package that I did not take time to investigate, and it takes Gcc to
build it.  But one of the big ideas of Java is that it contains its own
code, so the programmer's effort is greatly reduced.  I would be
if pdftk does not use the standard Java gui.
Girvin Herr

good to know, especially about the '3rd-party code'.

makes sense the gui would be in java so it can run on various platforms.

I don't however foresee myself invoking the gui unless I'm working off of
Windows or something.

I'll look but I bet there's a command-line version for Windows too.


On 04/13/2013 11:24 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Tom Davies wrote:


 I'm only familiar with pdftk as a command-line tool; thus I was
by the discussion of desktop environments.

it does have a gui interface (or several?) and then there are the
Windows and Mac versions. I don't know what is used to make the gui
interface on Linux.



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