Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base

On 04/12/2013 04:51 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> On 4/12/2013 1:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> > On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> > > LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2
> > > Windows 7 64bit
> > >
> > > Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object.
> > > If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose.
> > >
> > > "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description".
> > >
> > > The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the 
> > > upper right hand quadrant.
> > >
> > > The following is from HELP.
> > >
> > > Begin 
> > > Quote----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >  Description
> > >
> > > Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are 
> > > accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you 
> > > export the document.
> > >
> > >
> > > To access this command...
> > >
> > > Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    Title
> > >
> > > Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag 
> > > in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text.
> > >
> > >
> > >    Description
> > >
> > > Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered 
> > > to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with 
> > > screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative 
> > > tag for accessibility tools.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------End 
> > > Quote
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Paul
> >        The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the 
> > document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of 
> > documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of 
> > these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not 
> > tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as 
> > well. It likely will.
> >       However, this does not apply to the database objects found in 
> > the main database window. (They are not part of a document.)
> >
> > --Dan
> And yet, when you run your mouse over a "Task" on upper left quadrant, 
> under "Description" the text describing it shows immediately.
>
> Should I assume that is tied to "Base" from its origins in HSQLDB and 
> not able to function in LibreOffice or is just not applied to user 
> made objects?
>
> "Queries" drive me crazy.
> It would be a very convenient function and reduce the memory exercise 
> of how this or that was done and how it should be used.
>
> Regretfully, the language is not clear in "Help" under Base as 
> compared to what shows on the main window of Base and is confusing.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
     I do not think you know what LibreOffice means when it uses the 
term /object/. Here is the definition, also found in help:
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   "Object


An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to 
application data, such as text or graphics.

Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object 
containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic 
object has commands for image editing and a spreadsheet contains 
calculation commands."
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      From this I understand that an object is something that you add 
to a LibreOffice document using a tool on a toolbar that places 
something on the screen. For example, the Drawing toolbar while in 
Writer, Calc, Base, or Impress. When this is visible, you can click a 
tool and draw it in your open document. Then you can click the "object" 
you just drew and select "Description from the context menu.
      So, what about "queries?" What is it that you do not understand? 
It is a term that is used by every database program for decades. The 
purpose of a query is to search the data in its database for specific 
information.
      For example, when you went to Help and looked up the term 
"Description", you found what you quoted in your first email. What you 
did was to create a query whose purpose was to search for the 
information it had on the term /Description/.

--Dan

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