On 09/02/13 16:34, Dan Lewis wrote:
Thanks Dan. I really do appreciate your input and will apply that for
the next time this issue applies. I must say though, that this solution
you have suggested seems unnecessarily complicated. Surely there must be
an easier way in terms of time and code optimisation?
On 02/08/2013 08:02 AM, sun shine wrote:
You are using a numbering style in the Styles and Formatting
window (List styles)? It appears so, because I don't know how to use
sub-numbers without using this style.
There are three values that determine where numbering and text
appears on a given line of the list: the distance from the beginning
of numbering to the beginning of text,where the numbering begins, and
where additional lines for a given sub-number begin.
These are controlled in the Position page (tab) of the numbering
style you are using. It should be easier to enter values in the
following order: "Aligned at", Numbering followed by", and "Indent
at". In fact in my experience, "Numbering followed by" and "Indent at"
are usually the same value. This way the text in succeeding lines line
up with the text of the top line for a given number or sub-number.
"Aligned at": This is where the numbering begins. For the top
level of the list, use this to determine how much of an indent the
entire list will have. For the each of the succeeding levels, use the
same value as you used in "Numbering followed by" in the level above it.
"Numbering followed by" and "Indent at" are very similar. Both
are the positions for text. "Numbering followed by" is where text
begins on the first line for a given number or sub-number. "Indent at"
is where the text begins on the succeeding lines. (You are having
problems with both of these.)
Of these two, "Numbering followed by" is the more important. That
is because you need to be concerned with the difference between
"Numbering followed by" and "Aligned at". This difference is the
length available for the number or sub-number. If either is longer
than the allowed length, Writer begins the text at the next tab stop
producing the wide tab space you notice. The default value in
Numbering 1 list style for "Numbering followed by" is 0.5" and the
"Aligned at" 0.25". The difference is 0.25". For the LibreOffice
documents "Numbering followed by" is 0.51" and the "Aligned at" 0.39".
the difference is 0.12". The reason for the slight difference is
documentation tends to have longer numbers and sub-numbers (especially
One of the biggest (personal) bugbears I have with LibO (and OOo
before this) is the issue of numbering and bulleting. It just seems
counter-intuitive to me and is one of the very few areas where I
think that MS has a better approach.
I have a numbered list in a table and now I want sub-numbers, such as:
1. text text text text text
1.1. text text text text
1.2. text text text text
2. text text text text text
However two things happen:
(1) I have to manually play around with the sub-number positions so
that there isn't (a) a large tab space between the number and the
start of the text and (b) the sub-number is aligned reasonably close
to the main number; and
(2) the text of the sub-number (e.g. 1.1.) does not align itself to
where the text for that sub-number starts. Instead, it goes all the
way to align with the main number (e.g. 1.).
This is difficult to reproduce using the email but basically it looks
really sloppy, and I don't know how to set it up so that the numbers
and sub-numbers and the associated text align in blocks.
I think that there is something I might be able to do with a style
page - but that seems like a lot of work just to get some numbers
Any ideas/ suggestions?
Here are some suggested steps that might help:
1.) For level 1, set "Aligned at" with what you want the left side of
the list to be. Set the "Numbering followed followed by" next. Just
make sure the difference between these two is greater than the longest
level one number. Now set "Indent at" to be the same as "Numbering
2.) For level 2 and beyond: Set "Aligned at" to be the same as
"Numbering followed by" of the level above it. Set "Numbering followed
by" to be greater than the longest sub-number for this level. Set
"Aligned at" to equal "Numbering followed by".
One additional point. You probably want the difference between
"Numbering followed by" and "Aligned by" to be the same for all
levels. If this is the case, you need to determine what will be the
largest of these values. Then use this to determine what each of the
"Numbering followed by" should be.
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