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Hi :)
Ahah, trust Dan to know the answer :D  

Feature-request, wish-list and enhancement-request are all the same thing.  Different projects 
prefer different terms and i can never remember which is the one that gets used in LibreOffice so i 
just try to cover the most likely choices.  I guess ideally i would prefer it if it did use the 
fonts set in Writer by default but would also allow "Styles" (so i guess the style called "default" 
or "body-text" would be the one set in the Writer section
Tools - Options - Writer - "Basic fonts"
but it would make even more sense if the options in there were moved to 
Tools - Options - Fonts  
I wonder why that hasn't been done already though?  There might be a really good reason why not.  
So, the way i see uit there are perhaps 3 or 4 enhancement-requests (or whatever) that might be 
worth posting.  

I don't think any count as proper bugs and i wouldn't want to put it on tooo high a priority 
because there are a lot more serious issues that would be best done sooner.  At least this issue is 
just cosmetic.  For example better back-ends and tighter integration with more back-ends would be 
great (apparently the people from postgresql (and the liaison chap) here did a great job and Alex 
sorts out MySql/MariaDb quite often).  Pruning Base right back to get rid of some of those 
troublesome wizards would be fantastic.  
Regards from
Tom :)  

From: Dan Lewis <>
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013, 11:26
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing & restoring (Default) font

I use the Ubuntu OS, and I have noticed that the Default font setting is "Ubuntu" which got me to 
thinking. Is Base using the OS font settings? It seems that it is. I changed the Ubuntu OS font 
settings from Ubuntu to Liberation Sans and then checked the default fonts in Base. They also were 
changed to Liberation Sans. So, change your OS fonts to what you want the Base fonts to be.


On 01/12/2013 07:48 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I am not well versed in the "Styles" department, but that may be more towards what you want.  
Make a "style" and use it to make Base workings use a font style.

Yes, there has to be a Font control for Base.

There is a
"Font settings for HTML, Basic, and SQL sources"  under Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Fonts

Have you looked there to see if changing that from "Automatic" to a specific font name and size 
will work for you?

I am just wondering if Base would use the default font setting for "Basic" and "SQL".

On 01/12/2013 07:27 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
I was able to multi-select the controls and change the font as you suggested.  Using 
ctrl-shift-click also only selected the control, not the captions, however, I can see that 
getting tricky if the controls and their captions are all over the form, as mine are. If they 
were all in one or two columns, that would be easy.  This procedure may be a work-around.

Ummm.  Changing the default font is a "wish-list" or "feature request"?  Not being able to do 
so sounds more like a bug or a slip-up to me.  There is also the matter of being able to change 
back to the default.  IMHO, what should be done is to enable the toolbar font styles and/or 
font selection when a control is selected.  They seem pretty useless otherwise.

Thanks fro the help.

Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Hmm, so perhaps an "Enhancement Request" (wish-list or feature-- request) might be a good idea 
with the request asking for the fonts to be in Tools - Options - Base

It 'should' be possible to select quite a few elements on a Form or Report and change various 
things for all those that are selected.  In Access i think i used to be able to select an area 
and any controls that were completely inside the area would be selected.  Any that were partly 
outside wouldn't be. I think Shift click and Ctrl click also resulted in selecting more than 1 
element at a time.  Dunno if it works and even if it does work i dunno if it actually helps.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Girvin R. Herr <>
To: Tom Davies <> Cc: LibreOffice Users <> 
Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013, 21:24
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing & restoring (Default) font

I don't think I am over-complicating it.  Here is what I found:

    In Tools -> Options -> Writer -> Basic fonts,  I have "Default"
    listed as "Liberation Sans", Size 12.  (This is correct, for my Writer.)

    In the example Base form I mentioned, when I have no control
    selected (edit mode) , the toolbar shows "Default", "DejaVu Serif",
    size 12.    If I select a control the toolbar options are greyed out and in the
    control's properties dialog under "Font", it lists "(Default)", and
    when I click on the [...] button to the right to get the font
    selection dialog, it first highlights "DejaVu Sans", with size of
    10.  I am assuming that since it is highlighted first, it is what
    "(Default)" is set to.

These are three different fonts!
So, your comment that Base does not have a separate default font does not appear true.  Base 
does not seem to track the Writer "Default" font as its "(Default)" font.  Keep in mind, this 
form was created way back with an early version of OpenOffice, probably 2.4, so these font 
definitions may be embedded in the form file somewhere from then.  However, the form's 
"(Default)" font should be changeable somewhere, as is Writer's, since it can't seem to be 
changed in the Base form's style dialog.  I just had another idea and looked at the form's 
character style (no control selected). There is a "Default" character style, but when I 
right-click on it, all I get is "New", no "Modify" option.  Weird!

In the "big picture", what I am trying to do is change "(Default)" to the font I want without 
changing each and every one of the numerous controls in numerous forms that I have. That will 
be painful, as I discovered already on one form, which I will have to return to "(Default)" 
when I learn the secret of changing the "(Default)" font.  That is why I asked question #2 - 
how to return a control font to "(Default)" after is has been changed to something else.
Girvin Herr

Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Are you over-complicating the default font?
Tools - Options - Writer - "Basic Fonts"
should set the defaults for most things.  There isn't a different one for Base. Regards from
Tom :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
      *From:* Girvin R. Herr <>
      *To:* LibreOffice Users <>
      *Sent:* Saturday, 12 January 2013, 2:28
      *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] Base: Changing & restoring
      (Default) font

      I am running Base in LO  In a form, I am trying to change
      the "(Default)" font without any progress.  I do not know where
      this "(Default)" font setting is located and the styles icon on
      the toolbar, along with the font window on the toolbar are grayed
      out if I have a control selected.  They are not grayed out if I do
      not have any control selected and then I can change the "Default"
      style font to another font.  However, when I select a control, the
      control properties dialog still has "(Default)" selected and the
      font displayed in the control is not the font I changed to in the
      style dialog.  Does anyone know where to set the font assigned to
      the "(Default)" font?

      Second, related question:  Once the control's font is changed in
      the control properties dialog to something other than "(Default)",
      how does one get it back to "(Default)"?
      The "(Default)" option is not available in the font selection dialog.

      Thanks in advance.
      Girvin Herr

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