Re: [libreoffice-users] apply numbering to headings styles

In response to Tanstaafl and Regina,

I've never considered this a "bug." Rather it's a design decision, and I 
wouldn't want to clutter up a bugzilla with my design preferences. Also, 
despite the fact that I don't like it, it works better than MS Word's 
outliner. I just figure there is something about the way outline levels are 
inter-connected that makes it difficult to control them through paragraph 
styles.

Regina, you're correct. Only the left indents are controlled by the 
numbering dialog, which is part of the problem. SOME formatting parameters 
are controlled by paragraph styles and SOME are controlled by the numbering 
dialog, so I'm bouncing back and forth between different formatting 
paradigms.

As to the Headings styles, I should have clarified, my "outline" styles are 
not for headings. I create a lot of outlined documents. I have actually 
created several other Headings styles, called "Chapter," "Section," 
"Subsection," etc. I have followed the LaTeX naming scheme as it makes the 
most sense to me. So, between my heading styles and my outline styles, I use 
all 10 outline levels.

I prefer creating my own styles rather than trying to work with the 
pre-defined styles. I just find it easier and cleaner.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Regina Henschel
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:19 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] apply numbering to headings styles

Hi Virgil,

VA schrieb:
> I have never been satisfied with OO and LibO's treatment of outline
> numbering. I like to control all formatting with Styles, but when it
> comes to outline numbering, I can't do that.  For outline numbered
> paragraphs, even paragraph indents and margins are controlled by
> Tools/Outline Numbering rather than the styles.

Not "even", only left indents are set in the numbering dialog, all other
settings come from the paragraph style. What other setting can you not
do with the paragraph style?

> What I have done is create a bunch of paragraph styles called
> "Outline-1," "Outline-2," "Outline-3," etc. In terms of Style-controlled
> formatting, each of these styles is identical -- single spaced with 12
> point vertical space before each paragraph. Then, in the Tools/Outline
> Numbering dialog, I associate each outline style with a different
> outline level. Then within each particular level, I set the formatting
> parameters I want with proper numbering and paragraph indenting.

Why do you need own paragraph styles for that? The predefined styles
"Heading 1" etc. work as well. You can adapt them easily to your own needs.

> It is all very backwards as I end up formatting paragraphs, not by the
> formatting styles, but by the outline numbering feature. I spent many,
> many hours trying to get it figured out, but once I got it done, it
> works great. I saved all my styles and outline numbering parameters into
> my default template so that I never have to try to figure it out again.

Yes, that is the normal way, define own templates for settings, which
you use often and set that template, which you use most, as default
template.

Kind regards
Regina




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