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Hi :)
A huge +1 really.  Just +1 doesn't really get close! 
Definitely impressive work from Stuart there!  "Above and beyond" gets

I tried voting but found that really unclear, and i
have been editing wiki's for a while now.  I was able to add a comment
in support but i'm not sure if it's the type of thing they are looking

Stuart also gave links to the relevant bug-reports and i
have a feeling it might be easier to post comments there but only if
they help the devs get closer to fixing the problems, such as version
number of LO you are using and which OS (Windows Xp, Ubuntu or whatever)

I think the wiki wanted more conversational type comments but i wasn't sure what i should say.  
Regards from
Tom :)  

--- On Mon, 15/10/12, Kevin Cussick
 <> wrote:

From: Kevin Cussick <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Reality Check - Windows Java Accessibility API 
non-functional for ALL LibreOffice 3.6.x releases to date
To: "V Stuart Foote" <>
Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 20:04


No apology needed Stuart. You have done more than most and i would like to take this opportunity to 
thank you on list.

I knew the LO was not right but I now am pleased that someone from LO is now agreeing with me.  
Anyway. moving on, I will take a look at the link to vote on the ticket to get accessibleIa2 added
 into the code for LO.  Let 
me once again thank you for all your effort and hard work on this. OK we don't have the result we 
would like but now we know we can maybe try and get a fix for it.

On 15/10/2012 01:10, V Stuart Foote wrote:
LibreOffice versions 3.6.0 and later have not correctly implemented the Java Access Bridge (JAB) 
modules used to expose the Java Accessibility API roles for Windows users.

It took me a little while to work out the testing methods, but the Oracle test utilities 
JavaFerret-32 and JavaMonkey-32 show that LibreOffice is not implementing the Java Accessibility 
API and therefore does not expose accessibility roles to Assistive Technologies.

Neither JAB v.2.0.2 or v 2.0.3, nor current JRE version 1.6u35 or 1.7u7 will make a difference.

I tested LibreOffice builds,,, and none of which are functional.

 addition today I completed testing of ALL builds of LibreOffice from 3.4.5 to 3.5.7rc2.  With 
exception of the 3.5.0 build they all correctly map Java Accessibility API roles to UNO 
Accessibility roles.

The Java Accessibility API is not as comprehensive as the IAccessible2 role mappings provided by 
IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0.1, but it is functional for the 3.4 and 3.5 releases of LibreOffice.  And, 
for these versions Windows  Assistive Technologies will work. For example, the Windows NVDA 
screen reader will function with cursor control and component announcements for the entire 
document tree.

Windows versions of LibreOffice 3.6, including the current build 3.6.3 rc1, are NOT USEABLE with 
Assistive Technologies and they have not been usable with Windows Assistive Technologies at any 

For folks that I've mislead with my insistence that all is well with LibreOffice 3.6 and Java 
Access Bridge
 and JRE with use of Assistive Technologies like NVDA screen reader I was wrong--I apologize.
I've updated the FDO#53474 (http:  bug report 
) and would encourage folks to vote, i.e. comment on, the enhancement to implement IAccessible2 
API  ( ) for Windows builds by 
incorporating the IBM contributed Symphony code base as a replacement of the Java Accessibility 
API as that is probably the fastest means of bringing Windows builds of LibreOffice to the same 
functional level as Linux builds that use the ATK AT-SPI accessibility APIs.


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