Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: HOWTO change all-user default file formats (Windows), for LOo3.5?

--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Andreas Säger <villeroy@t-online.de> wrote:

> From: Andreas Säger <villeroy@t-online.de>
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: HOWTO change all-user default file formats (Windows), for LOo3.5?
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 7:01 AM
> Am 11.05.2012 10:47, ultraxlnt-domai20044888@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Thanks for the quick reply.  I probably wasn't
> clear enough about the goal being that any users added to
> the machines (post facto) would get MS
> > default formats without doing (knowing how to do)
> anything.  (I was recently excoriated by a client who
> had difficulty because her customers couldn't open the
> .odt's LOo gave her....)
> > Thanks again,
> > ultra
>
> It is somewhere in the options but you must not do that.
> Always edit your documents in the native ODF format (odt,
> ods, odp etc) in order to get most of the software and the
> best conversion results.
> Then you call menu:File>Send>"Document As PDF" and
> everybody will be able to read an exact virtual print of
> your document since everybody has some PDF reading software
> on any computer platform.
>
> *If and only if* you need to co-edit some document with
> users of Microsoft Office you call
> menu:File>Send>"Document AS MS ..." which keeps your
> ODF document while attaching a MS version to an email.
> Next time you get mailed the next version of some MS file
> open that file and save your copy in native ODF in your own
> working directory.
> In this scenario you have to strictly avoid the new OOXML
> document formats (docx, xlsx and pptx). LibreOffice stores
> well formed documents in the older doc/xls/ppt formats while
> these formats are fully supported by MS office. The
> conversion to doc/xls/ppt works best when it is done in one
> go. Working in foreign file formats (saving as doc every few
> minutes) may cumulate conversion flaws.
>
> Hope this helps.

Yes, but in the sense of raising an unanticipated problem if it's still
true for recent versions of LOo.  In the preferences it's possible (under
"Load/Save") to make docx/xlsx/pptx the user default formats.  iirc that was also mentioned in the 
November thread.  So what you're saying is that LOo lets users put themselves into "error prone 
mode" without, e.g. a warning box or better still a parenthetic warning in the menu selection, even 
though it will sometimes (iirc) gives a warning about saving individual files in some foreign 
formats.

Without knowing under-the-hood details (thus potentially in ignorance) it would seem that a 
container/metafile-type format that appends odX or additionally saves and locally associates odX 
with foreign formats would be a much better solution that preserves odX format advantages and 
consistency versus cumulated errors but lets users work transparently with whatever format they 
prefer.  If the conversion is being done anyway the main overhead delta would be additional 
disk-writes and disk space (negligible compared to videos....)

ultra






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