Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters

Hi :)
AltGr is the Alt key on the right of the space-bar.  You probably just haven't noticed the Gr bit 
before.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 17/4/12, Thomas Taylor <linxt@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Thomas Taylor <linxt@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 21:32

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com> wrote:

> Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin <sob@iol.ie>:
> > Regina wrote:
> >
> > > They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced
> > > with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . .
> >
> > That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are
> > distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and
> > typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are
> > they interchangeable.
> >
> > You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you
> > are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and
> > your keyboard layout.
> >
> > As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you
> > use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise
> > your keyboard layout,
>
> That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”,
> available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I
> thought it could be a bit tricky…
> I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also
> did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the
> first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have
> them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations
> so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%&/” and so on. I even
> made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a
> couple of weeks of typing…
>
> To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need
> to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu):
> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
> and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/<the file representing your language>,
> more on that another time…
>
> Ok, this was a bit off topic…
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
> > so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the
> > en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you
> > want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!).
> >
> > You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences,
> > but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is
> > _not_ your friend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Johnny;
Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the "Alt" key on the
keyboard but which key is Gr?  My keyboard (an old IBM windows model) doesn't
have such a key.

Thanks, Tom

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