Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Address Books

On 03/16/2012 09:29 AM, Nino Novak wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2012, 12:57:24 Andreas Säger wrote:
> > Am 16.03.2012 11:09, Nino Novak wrote:
> > > On Thursday 15 March 2012, 21:49:10 Andreas Säger wrote:
> > > > First you need some database up and running. The creation of a
> > > > database
> > > > requires expert skills and appropriate software tools for the database
> > > > type in question.
> > > IMHO, we should offer a really *short* tutorial on how to create a
> > > simple
> > > address book with LibreOffice.
> > >
> > > It could be used as reference on how to use Base.
> > >
> > > Don't you think, that this would help much more than saying, that it
> > > requires expert skills?
> > >
> > > Nino
> > Again, this is *impossible*.
> Would you mind - sorry for the "assault" - would   you mind to *show* me that
> that's impossible instead of telling me?
>
> (Note: I'm not talking about a tutorial of "how to become a database expert",
> but only of "how to create a simple address book")
>
> > You can not describe how to do that by
> > means  of features. You have to describe the process by means of data.
> I don't understand what you want to say here.
>
> As for the tutorial, I meant: implementing one possible concretion of an
> address book. Step by step. No further knowledge needed (though of course,
> helpful if available).
>
>
> > There are plenty of references on how to use Base.
> Unfortunately most of them start with theory. Though, there is one tutorial-
> like Howto which I really appreciate. But it's about a calendar/scheduler, so
> not applicable here.
>
>
> > There are thousands
> > of resources on relational database design in general.
> As said before: I did not mean to learn how to become a database specialist.
> The tutorial should be aimed at simple (or say, a little bit advanced) users,
> who just want to build a simple database.
>
>
> > This is not a
> > problem. The problem is that too many people try to learn this by doing.
> I always encounter too many people trying to understand theory and
> capitulating because of the too high level of abstraction needed to understand
> theory.
>
> > But this is something where you need to know some basics before you can
> > do anything.
> What if we "just try it"?
>
> Nino

My database experience started with a DOS database. Then I moved from 
that to Access to Paradox to Base. I'm very far from a database expert. 
In base I have one with about 2600 records at work to keep address, 
phone numbers, basic information in about the inquiry, and notes of 
things that transpired. I have a second one to print Christmas card 
mailing labels. I learned how to do this by reading, and trial and error 
through the various programs/applications. I would be lost without my 
databases. I think a tutorial would be an excellent thing. When I moved 
to Base, about 8 years ago, I printed out the Base tutorial and just 
followed it.

Don


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