Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

Hi Thorsten,

Le 17/02/2012 10:24, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
> Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
> > The place where to bring questions to the devs has to be a visible
> > and accessible place.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I guess there's some work to be done to resolve those two points.
>
> not necessarily - what would be equally workable is a group of
> change agents (Regina, Cor, NoOp, you in this case, but also UX
> people like Christoph), who have their eyes&  ears here and at the
> forums and convey to ux-advise or the dev list.

Good point and certainly a workable intermediate option. Unfortunately, 
reading some of the msgs on UX lead me to think the devs aren't ready 
for that.

> Also, what would greatly reduce the cost&  friction that changes
> will cause in the future, is early feedback.

Granted.

> We invested quite some
> resources into providing nightly builds here:
>
>   http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
>
> (and my, and other hackers' personal time and money to keep those
> hosts running), so any suggestion to have people actually download&
> play with those builds greatly appreciated.

I, for one, have no time enough to play with all the toys that come up 
in the Libre software world. I happen to download and test LibO builds, 
but that's not on a regular basis and much of what I learn is from 
others' mouths.

> Cedric blogged his feature here:
>
>   http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/?p=818
>
> (that's also aggregated on planet.documentfoundation.org),

Yes, but that blog article (like most of the msgs that were posted on 
the lists) was aimed at headers and footers, not text boundaries that I 
feel are considered as some kind of a "sub-product" from the latter. I 
did participate on the FR discussion list to the header/footer talks 
but, at that time, left completely apart the text boundaries. I should 
have been more vocal about that, certainly, but I stood on topic... :(

> but
> possibly we could do better spreading the word - would someone
> (you?) be interested in compiling a weekly or monthly newsletter for
> LibreOffice?

More simply: give more visibility to the UX list. I share your thoughts 
that given it's aim, many won't subscribe. But those interested will 
know of its existence.

> Thanks for jumping in indeed - well, you *did* it yourself. Let's
> see where that (constructive) discussion gets us to.

<sigh>


Thanks for your time,
--
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

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