Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Converting references to non-reference text in LibreOffice Writer: the dumbest possible way?!

Hi :)
People are often encouraged to post feature requests via the bug-tracking system
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

Hopefully that is an easy way-in for people to learn how to post proper bug-reports about other 
issues they might otherwise be too shy about reporting.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 10/2/12, Peter Juhasz <juhaszp.ee@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Peter Juhasz <juhaszp.ee@gmail.com>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Converting references to non-reference text    in LibreOffice 
Writer:  the dumbest possible way?!
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 10 February, 2012, 10:07

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <andrew <at> pitonyak.org> writes:

> On 07/13/2011 03:15 PM, Sandy Miller wrote:
> > I have LibreOffice documents (written in 3.2/3.3) with extensive field
> > cross-referencing to numbers of tables, numbered paragraphs, numbered
> > sections and chapters, etc. Conversion to Word often messes those up
> > so I wanted to change them all to text. Now, in Word one could just
> > highlight the whole text, press CTRL+SHIFT+F9, and be done with it. In
> > LibreOffice, the help says, I have to convert every field into
> > unformatted text with Paste Special ... Whoever  programmed this has
> > got to be kidding me? Am I really supposed to go through a document
> > one field at a time and update every one on its own, plus I have to
> > figure out the right order because if I do that from the beginning of
> > the doc, changing one changes the numbering of everything etc. after
> > it ... Is there srsly no better way? Any pointers or changes in
> > LibreOffice would be much appreciated!
> Historically, I have used macros for such things (I know, horrid 
> answer). You can also select the text containing the reference, copy it 
> to the clipboard, then paste it as text (I know, yet another horrid 
> answer). but... so far, I do not see that anyone has answered

Andrew, your contribution is worldwide much appreciated, everyone should be 
aware of. Nevertheless, using macros limits the range of users who can use
certain functions in LibreOffice. While programmers get wings, unexperienced
users may not be able to make use of the macros even if great samples 
as yours are available. 

I think a clear statement about lack of certain functions would help people
get happier with LibreOffice. It is still much better to avoid expecting
some functions and putting much effort in developing a document, then dropping
it all at a certain point when it becomes clear that a bottleneck is reached.

Perhaps a list of such statements would also help developers get oriented and
prioritized. If there is a list of nice-to-have or we-got-used-to features
momentarily not implemented in LibO, please share that. 

I fell in the same cage: developed a nice doc using 40 clever document fields. 
Now I can't use this document on the purpose I intended to, because I can't
convert fields to text. Lost 2 weeks of work.




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