Hi :)
False positives and the need to switch off security on a regular basis in order to do fairly
routine tasks is such a normal part of the Windows world.
According to most antivirus companies around 20% of Windows machines are infected with some sort of
malware. Apparently MS were quite proud when their new antivirus program found it was more like
80% (of machines that people were worried about). All of which fails to recognise that Windows
could be classed as a trojan in it's own right. Anti-virus programs try to get ahead of the curve
by worrying about programs that could be executables and therefore have at least a 20% chance of
being malware. Anything that is going to mess with the registry is also a worry for an antivirus
program. To flag or not to flag. Each security program has to decide just how likely it is that
the users actually wants to install programs other than itself and then balance that against the
likelihood that the users is being fooled into doing something they might not have thought about.
After all, anyone that installs/has Windows and then worries about security is
at least 20% likely to have an infected machine already. If in doubt, blame the user for
following instructions! There must be an alternative to the paranoia of the Windows world but
would people use it? I keep getting sucked back into dealing with Windows (mostly to fix
colleagues problems admittedly) and i'm guessing most people do, even here.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Thu, 15/12/11, M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:
From: M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Portable
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 15 December, 2011, 0:26
It is a first for me, I download OS's and other large files regularly.
Thanks, again.
On 12/14/2011 7:03 PM, David S. Crampton wrote:
I don't know why. Sorry experience suggested it. I have seen this
behavior on 3 different antivirus scanners over the years. All in
Windows OS. No useful user feedback. Not even an event registered to
event logs.
If you download a lot you might see it in other downloads. I answered a
similar question in this forum about a month ago. Same thing.
I can see it in theory. The scanner is looking for "tokens" or sequences
of binary code that are associated with virus / worm executables. It's
not improbable that a huge download, using compression, would generate
enough of similar looking binary string to trigger a false positive.
Why the antivirus scanner doesn't tell you what's happened? Mystery.
I'm glad you got it,
David
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:30:52 -0800, M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com>
wrote:
That worked. Why does that work?
I'm using Avast 6.0.1367, and it hasn't thrown any flags while silently
killing ONLY LibreOffice Portable downloads.
On 12/14/2011 6:14 PM, David S. Crampton wrote:
Try to turn off your realtime antivirus scanner. Unload it or stop the
process.
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:33:40 -0800, Pedro <pedlino@gmail.com> wrote:
M Robinson wrote
What's the story with LibreOffice Portable, I've been
trying to
download the file since PortableApps released version 10. It doesn't
matter which site a attempt to download from I end up with an
incomplete
file of 19.9 MB, the downloads start with a file side of 121 MB.
That seems to be a problem with the PortableApps mirrors or your
download
manager.
Try to get LibreOffice separately from
http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable
In any case you should ask at the PortableApps forum since
LibreOffice or
TDF can't help you on this problem ;)
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