Re: [libreoffice-users] can't print to pages on a single side of paper

Am 29.10.2011 um 01:59 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions:

> Sorry, I just say the Device option tap showing PDF as the default.  I do not know what "PDF" 
> means in this context, since my printers may have that as a printer language type, as far as I 
> remember.  My HP Inkjet is not a postscript printer, but my Color Laser might be able to deal 
> with that.  I did not see Postscript as an option for the Epson inkjet.  I sure did not read it 
> having a PDF language option.  So something is not right.  Could PDF here mean "Printer Defined 
> Format" for the language used?

... but in context with PS - I don't think that printer defined format is being used. In Linux 
printing works like this (I think) cups (common unix printing system) gets the data, converts them 
to PS, sends them to the rip and then to the Printer Driver (more on 
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/CUPS-printing.html#cups1).

> Can the Postscript type "level from driver" be kept as the "default" option somehow?  Maybe the 
> "Printer Administration" shown was a module of LO 3.4 [at least with Ubuntu]?  I believe that 
> module of LO was designed to set up the printers to run properly with LO.

I've searched around and found nothing. The only thing I found is to set a new Standard document 
where the printer Language is set to PS. But that effects only new document - not the old.

> --------------
>
> CUPS-PDF - no package for OpenSUSE?   I wondered what OpenSUSE uses as a replacement package, so 
> I looked it up on the site.
>
> On the opensuse.org site, 12.1 is in RC till November 16th.  I searched the packages and there 
> are 3 rpm package files [depending on the computer] for cups-pdf-2.5.1-1.1
>
> If I read the site correctly, 12.1 is the "opensuse/factory" development version since it still 
> is in development till November 16th.  So the search for the cups pdf package in that and the 
> other version come up with a .rpm file to download and install it.  So it should be in the 
> OpenSUSE version of a repository.
>
> http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups+pdf&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory&lang=en&exclude_debug=true
> <http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups+pdf&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory&lang=en&exclude_debug=true>
> I wonder why it was not part of the ISO that you downloaded to install OpenSUSE?

No it isn't. But as far as I know package cups-pdf does only give me a pdf-printer.

> Actually I had trouble with OpenSUSE, the one time I tried using it.  I have an IBM server that 
> originally had SUSE installed on it, so the icon tag showed.  But I bought it with the OS, and 
> everything else, wiped off the 3 SCSI drives that 2002 era P-4 IBM server had.  So I downloaded 
> OpenSUSE [3 or 4 years ago] and tried to install it, but it would not install.  So I ended using 
> an old copy of Win2000/pro till I ended up putting Ubuntu on it 2 years ago.  So I never had any 
> luck with OpenSUSE.  If they do not include, in their ISOs, something as simple as the PDF 
> package that is part of the CUPS printer environment, I do not know what to think.  My Epson 
> printer uses a driver that uses CUPS as its backend so I can print using Linux computers.

Printing from all other programs, for example from the preview, works fine. I could create a pdf 
document from LibreOffice and print it - two pages on a sheet - with preview!

> Do not get me wrong, OpenSUSE might be a great Linux OS, since businesses are what it tends to be 
> what it is marketed towards, but I just had one bad experience and did not look back.  I use 
> Ubuntu, and other people tell me to try "such-n-such" Linux distro since they think it is the 
> best you can get.  We have one person on this board that is involved in developing the  Mandriva, 
> which was Mandrake.  I was taught Linux using Mandrake 7.x, back 10 to 11 years ago [if I 
> remember correctly, and I still have a CD of it].  That one is in the top 10 of the list of 
> distros I came across on a distro watch site.  OpenSUSE is on that list as well.  Arch Linux is 
> considered an advanced user distro while OpenSUSE is a "middle-of-the-road" one. Their terms, not 
> mine.  But we each have our favorite ones.  I have mine and you have yours.  That it what it 
> should be.

Offtopic - anyway: I'm often trying different distros (just for fun and) to see how they develop. 
Every distro has it's own pros and cons. (I haven't found a perfect distro for me). I'm going to 
check ubuntu again (last time was a year ago). But ubuntu is somehow proprietary which I dislike. 
And since I set up some computers for friends I'm always looking for a distro with actual software 
and long and good support - which is opensuse (do you know another?)

> On 10/28/2011 12:04 PM, Thomas Knierim wrote:
> > Hi
> > Am 28.10.2011 um 15:36 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions:
> >
> > > I do not know about why PDF is set as the default for that printer.  I never saw an HP printer 
> > > use PDF as a default language for the printer.
> > The Printer Language is set by LibreOffice. If you open the print dialog, klick on the printer 
> > and then on properties you get a new window. Select the tab device and here you have the printer 
> > language PDF (don't know if the Words of the tab etc. are correct since I use a german version). 
> > Again: setting this to PostScript (Level of the Driver) resolves the problem - but that are too 
> > much clicks for a print job.
> >
> > > Did you download and install the HP drivers for Linux?  Here is the link to the site.
> > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
> > Yes I have the newest Version installed. The most recent version is 3.11.10...
> >
> > > I have two HP printers.  Color Laserjet 2600n and PSC1410.  I needed these updated drivers to 
> > > make the printers work the best for Ubuntu Linux.  When you run the file in the Terminal 
> > > [instructions are given on the site], it should ask about which OS and printer you have, before 
> > > you download the needed file.  Then when you run the script, it will download everything that 
> > > is needed and install the needed packages for you.
> > >
> > > This may help, if you did not install the drivers.  I found that the drivers included with 
> > > Ubuntu 10.04 was not as good as the most up-to-date ones from that site.
> > >
> > > The system shows the OS for SUSE 11.3 and 11.4, and you will have to page down the printer list 
> > > a long way to get to your printer, after you select OfficeJet Pro as the type of printer.  I do 
> > > not see ArchLinux, but you should be able to use the driver from the parent OS like Debian, 
> > > Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, etc., whatever it is.  It shows the same version for the package as you 
> > > listed, but so did Ubuntu, but for some reason when I installed the version from this site, it 
> > > seemed to work better.  Actually, I just realized that I am running an older version than is 
> > > online, so I will be upgrading it myself.
> > >
> > > IF you still have the problems, make sure you use the non-PDF language for your default printer 
> > > language.  HP's language or Postscript language is preferred.
> > ... PDF is set in LibreOffice (see above) :(
> >
> > > As for CUPS, did you install CUPS-PDF from your package manager?  That is my default way to 
> > > print out PDF files, even from LibreOffice [most of the time].
> > In OpenSuse 12.1 (standard) there is no package called cups-pdf
> >
> > > As for the 2 pages per sheet, the orientation for the sheet should be landscape.  If it is 
> > > otherwise, then there is a problem.
> > >
> > > On 10/28/2011 08:38 AM, Thomas Knierim wrote:
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > this is my first post in a mailing list - so please be patient.
> > > >
> > > > I have a strange problem - and I have to admint: I don't know if it belongs to llibreoffice 
> > > > only. So here is the Problem:
> > > > I'm using a HP Officjet Pro k8600dn and I can't print to pages on a sheet of paper. If I start 
> > > > a print job the paper gets loaded and the printer hangs. I could only bring it back to live if 
> > > > I switch it off and on again. The problem does only appear if the printer language is set to 
> > > > PDF (the default) in LibreOffice. If I set it to PostScript (level of the driver) the printer 
> > > > works as expected.
> > > > On the other hand: I have an old HP Laserjet 5L. With it the two-pages-on-a-sheet-printing 
> > > > works (but the orientation is wrong - but that's another problem).
> > > >
> > > > Here is my software:
> > > > OperationSystem: Linux (OpenSuse RC1 or Archlinux - both the same error)
> > > > LibreOffice: 3.4.2
> > > > CUPS: 1.5.0
> > > > hplip: 3.11.10
> > > >
> > > > Greetings tknierim
> > >
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