Hi :)
MS could have good reason to make sure that Odt doesn't work properly in
their
products. It would force people to use MS formats and they might hope that
would mean forcing people to buy their latest product, MS Office 2010,
before
the new release gets out. MS are a profit making company and profit is
their
number 1 objective. Their number 1 objective is not to help everyone
communicate with each other easily! If you view things from that point of
view
a lot of weird things they do make sense.
The Odt is not much smaller than the Doc in this specific case but in
general it
might be. The dragging thing was worth repeating just in case my systems
handled it different but in both Ubuntu using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and Windows
using LibreOffice 3.3.3 i got the same results and using the older 1.0/1.1
versions of the Odt format didn't make any difference. Which was something
i
have been wondering for a while so it was good to be able to test it :)
Regards from
Tom :)
________________________________
From: soumalya ray <drsoumalya@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 16:08:06
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in
libreoffice
writer
forgot to say that i have done the dragging part already.
so,docx is working properly in MS office but not in LO,that's weird.but i
am
more worried about the "odt not working" part.why will it be so????????
will post a bug report.
odt is not that small compared to doc but docx is almost 1/3 rd of doc!!
anyway,thanks for the help
On 20 July 2011 20:14, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi :)
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I can confirm the behaviour so
it's
worth posting a bug-report about it. There might already be a bug-report
but
because it's a proprietary format it might be difficult to get fixed so
don't
expect swift results!
Weirdly i opened the DocX in MS Office 2007 and found that it looked
fine,
just
like the Doc format. The Odt format wouldn't open even after i re-saved
it
as
version 1.0/1.1. So, your DocX looks fine in MS Office 2007 but just
looks
weird in LibreOffice.
The DocX opened fine in LibreOffice 3.3.2 but had the same problem with
the
table stretching off the page. I switched to
View - Webpage and dragged the table back within the normal page view and
saved
the page again but suffered the same problem.
DocX just wont work with this table in LibreOffice and i don't know why.
DocX
does often have troubles of this sort so it's best to stick with Doc.
DocX
'should' be smaller (as 'should' Odt) because they are compressed files.
You
can even read them with an archive manager such as WinRar or WinZip
although the
results show a folder containing the different parts of the file = it's
very
weird but worth trying as it can be a really cool way of recovering parts
of a
document that seems hopelessly corrupted and unrecoverable.
Regards from
Tom :)
________________________________
From: soumalya ray <drsoumalya@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 12:41:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in
libreoffice
writer
i will definitely send the attachments to you.i have not checked the
files
yet with MS office.i am wondering because-created the documents in
libreoffice,saved them and reopened them & this changed the document
totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!libreoffice itself could not open the document it
created properly!!!!!
anyway i will send you the documents.have a look.i will try to use odt as
much as possible and thanks for the direction for playing with the
settings.
On 20 July 2011 14:00, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi :)
Attachments get removed before the email gets to the list. Can you
upload
the
files somewhere and then give us a link? Alternatively you could use
my
private
email address (use copy&paste rather than just "Reply to") to send the
attachments to although i only have a limited idea of what might have
happened.
The Doc format is much better than the DocX for sharing with other
people.
Even
DocX files made in MS Office 2007 tend to go a bit wrong when viewed
with
MS
Office 2010 and similarly the other way around. Of course any MS
Office
before
their 2007 can't read DocX at all.
MS Office 2007 was the first MS Office to be able to read OdT format
but
they
use the old spec despite the newer spec being easier to find out about
and
implement. The DocX spec is very secretive and even MS don't implement
it
properly. So, it's better to use the older Doc format so that almost
anyone can
open the document.
To increase compatibility with MS Office go up to the "Tools" menu and
then
right down to "Options" at the bottom. The pop-up contains many useful
settings
and is well worth having a look at but for now just click on the +
beside
"Load/Save, then click on "General". Somewhere in the middle is "ODF
Format
Version". Change the drop-down beside that from "1.2 Extended
(recommended)" to
"1.0/1.1". Files saved in that format should be easily opened in MS
Office
just
by double-clicking on them. If you look just under there you can
change
the
"Text Document" format to "Microsoft Word (98/2000/Xp)". Similarly for
Spreadsheets and presentations although for those 2 you need to scroll
back
up
the list 2 places instead of just 1 otherwise documents get saved as
templates
which gets really messy.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)
________________________________
From: soumalya ray <drsoumalya@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 20 July, 2011 8:44:05
Subject: [libreoffice-users] formatting problem with table in
libreoffice
writer
hi,
just started using libreoffice in ubuntu lucid,version is 3.3.2.
i tried to insert a table & wrote something in it.saved it as .docx and
closed libreoffice.then again opened the document using libreoffice
itself.the last column of the table is going outside the page
boundary.this
made the last column invisible for all practical purposes.
i would like to know the mistake i am doing and how to solve it.
i am attaching 3 files here--
.odt-what i have written
.doc-what i am expecting
.docx-what i am getting
please help me and thanks in advance
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