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[libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...


* Present:
+ Stephan, Caolan, Christian, Michael M, Gabriel, Eduard A, Miklos,
Heiko, Kendy, Xisco, Sophie, Olivier, Michael S, Eike, Sophie,
Thorsten, Olivier, Michael W

* Completed Action Items:
+ take a look at symbol / crashtest bits (Markus, Christian)
[ server ran out of disk-space so couldn’t process them → now fixed ]
+ get Laurent Alonso commit access (Miklos)
+ talk to Tor / Nicolas if avoiding UNCONFIRMED for iOS makes sense (Miklos)
[ seems like it is sorted ]
+ looking for mentor for idea “Calc Functions Sidebar” (Heiko)
+ https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2019-March/082315.html
[ too late ]
+ review/update GSOC ideas page! (Mentors)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
[ also expired ]

* Pending Action Items:
+ add monitoring for build bot daily failure rates (Christian)
[ done manually for now – should be done next week ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no release this week.
+ 6.2.3 rc1 available on mirrors
+ 6.2.3 rc2 – available next week.
+ 6.1.6 rc1: April 9 next week
+ tagging Thur after 6.2.3
+ 6.3 alpha1: early May
+ Remotes → no updates
+ Android viewer
+ Maven repo is published up to 6.0.4 – rest later today (Christian)
+ Online:

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ Replacement icons now in gbuild (ohallot, buovjaga)
+ have a donation button in the help too now.
+ Help contents 2
+ Housekeeping and maintenance (ohallot, libreofficiant, A.Gelmini)
+ Google season of Code / Docs
+ registered TDF as organization (ohallot)
+ working on projects (ohallot djredaux)
+ would love suggestions for simple projects so
we can find tech. writers
+ “Easy-doc”.
+ not for students but for technical writers.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019
+ Guides
+ more updated on Calc Guide (J. Weber)

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 225(225) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 5(0) 14(0) 31(1) 78(-1)
commented 47(-7) 175(9) 497(55) 1384(8)
removed 1(1) 6(1) 10(1) 20(0)
resolved 4(-4) 21(-3) 60(1) 133(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Tietze, Heiko made 70 changes in 1 month, and 567 changes in 1 year
dieterp made 39 changes in 1 month, and 157 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 32 changes in 1 month, and 217 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 31 changes in 1 month, and 144 changes in 1 year
Xisco Faulí made 29 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 25 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 10 changes in 1 month, and 108 changes in 1 year
Jim Raykowski made 9 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
和尚蟹 made 9 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
Alexander Farrow made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
New needsUXEval between Mar/28-Apr/04

* Sidebar Separator lines
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124376
* calc menubar: SheetCommentMenu should be in EditMenu instead of
SheetMenu
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124523
* LO request to enhancement: make the '?' sign workable in Help -> About
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124541
=> in discussion

* Tabbed: Missing Some Required Functions from Previous Pop Up Toolbar
in Tabbed interface
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122751
* FRAME-DIALOG: Add an apply button
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124278
-> * 'Pick a Color' dialog: Give option to add a color to the custom
palette
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124418
-> * Change case -> Sentence case doesn't honor selection; case of entire
sentence changes
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49033
* Redundant undo/redo items in grouped compact bar
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124392
=> accepted/forwarded

-> * Change bullet styles names in Style section of Sidebar in Writer
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124471
=> fixed today.

* toggeling settings - e.g. threaded calculations - need restart, UI
unclear about this
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124323
* Unable to use keyboard navigation to access Brochure radio button in
Print dialog
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124249
=> WFM, NAB

Easyhacks
* 'Pick a Color' dialog: Give option to add a color to the custom
palette
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124418
* Make 'Search Results' dialog optional from Find & Replace dialog
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87965
* Improve bookmarks
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122891
* Add a "Release Notes/What's New" window to be shown upon first run
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69042

Extra
* Tip-Of-The-Day dialog coming
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/69498/
+ strings need to get revised by marketing
+ ideally designers come up with some illustrations

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 2(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
+ deadlocked and hung for the last days …
+ getting the backtrace at the moment ...
+ coverity suspended – until it supports c++17
+ Google / ossfuzz:
- 11 (-1) issues, 9 timeouts, 1 OOM
+ some deep stack issue.
+ ForcePoint, round 9
+ ?? a few minor issues lingering
+ CNA bits – got 1st batch of CVE numbers.
+ discussing a potential minor issue; open a CVE ?

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2
+ 1241 (+404)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.5.2
+ 1256 (+381)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.0.3
+ 2063 (+768)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.1.2
+ 1658 (+431)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.2.2
+ 1640 (+916)
+ reproduced some crashes this week with some of the symbols
+ thanks to Markus & Cloph for fixing this.
+ Markus’ fix was to manually unzip symbols.
+ if we see it in future know to ask Markus.
+ unclear why more crashes:
+ perhaps more downloads (?)
+ perhaps people use it more this week ? Unclear.

* Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
+ this year hackfests coming up:
+ Paris in Summer (Sophie)
+ first week of July Fri/Sat 5th / 6th
+ near Gare de Nord, La Mouette working on communication
+ designing a flier – avoids stomping on exams at end of June
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2019
+ hope to have a Hackfest NG setup again – mentees, please speak up!
+ people are adding themselves to the wiki already.
+ tentative Dresden: late autumn (past mid-October, for having students)
+ hope to have one each quarter.

* GSOC 2019 (Thorsten/Xisco/Moggi/Heiko)
+ student application period started – runs until April 9th (coming Tuesday)
+ so far 7 proposals, 2 more not yet final, fewer than slots.
+ expecting a last-minute rush as usual (Thorsten)
+ if you think you should be a mentor
but didn’t get a mail – poke one of us (Thorsten)

* C++ lectures (Xisco)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/C%2B%2BLectures
+ NEXT SESSION: April, 11 – need to come up with a topic.

* mentoring/easyhack update
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 86(10) 123(17) 129(19) 144(19)
reviews 1446(241) 4875(111) 13395(480) 45781(660)
merged 345(107) 1310(77) 3623(195) 14718(61)
abandoned 37(13) 85(31) 185(33) 829(22)
own commits 256(24) 1136(16) 3138(129) 14554(-9)
review commits 52(-4) 245(-18) 864(-3) 3850(-5)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 22(-1) 46(-25) 46(-27) 47(-27)
reviews 89(21) 238(-35) 499(-49) 7532(-642)
merged 28(2) 114(-2) 370(-6) 1708(-7)
abandoned 8(-2) 32(5) 73(2) 314(8)
own commits 31(8) 125(-4) 444(-5) 1718(-8)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 87(87) needsUXEval 0(0) cleanup_comments 258(258)
total 319(319) assigned 25(25) open 204(204)
+ top 10 contributors:
Gelmini, Andrea made 40 patches in 1 month, and 567 patches in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 patches in 1 month, and 43 patches in 1 year
shubham goyal made 11 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
Illarionov, Arkadiy made 9 patches in 1 month, and 83 patches in 1 year
Florin made 9 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 6 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
Fišeras, Aurimas made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Eduard Ardeleanu made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Tünde Tóth made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Mark-R made 2 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Timar, Andras made 256 review comments in 1 month, and 875 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 221 review comments in 1 month, and 1673 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 176 review comments in 1 month, and 1461 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 111 review comments in 1 month, and 1084 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1148 in 1 year
Xisco Faulí made 87 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
Holešovský, Jan made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 705 in 1 year
Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 426 in 1 year
Bergmann, Stephan made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 738 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 75 review comments in 1 month, and 1223 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
kushagrakasliwal1 2016bit052@sggs.ac.in
vyzigold jaromirwysoglad@gmail.com
* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleeping 2 weeks.

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
from:Thu Mar 28 13:49:26 2019
master linux rel jobs: 105 ok: 105 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master linux dbg jobs: 95 ok: 90 ko: 4 fail ratio: 4.21 % break: 4 broken duration: 5.00%
master mac rel jobs: 120 ok: 115 ko: 4 fail ratio: 3.33 % break: 3 broken duration: 1.97%
master mac dbg jobs: 118 ok: 116 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.69 % break: 2 broken duration: 0.80%
master win rel jobs: 104 ok: 67 ko: 37 fail ratio: 35.58 % break: 24 broken duration:36.40%
master win dbg jobs: 104 ok: 74 ko: 30 fail ratio: 28.85 % break: 20 broken duration:30.02%
master win64 dbg jobs: 101 ok: 76 ko: 25 fail ratio: 24.75 % break: 19 broken duration:21.12%
lo-5.3 mac jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.4 mac jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master gerrit lin jobs: 441 ok: 341 ko: 15 fail ratio: 3.40% time for ok: mean: 21 median: 20
master gerrit plg jobs: 445 ok: 325 ko: 56 fail ratio: 12.58% time for ok: mean: 36 median: 33
master gerrit win jobs: 483 ok: 307 ko: 66 fail ratio: 13.66% time for ok: mean: 65 median: 65
master gerrit mac jobs: 466 ok: 329 ko: 43 fail ratio: 9.23% time for ok: mean: 56 median: 32
master gerrit all jobs: 395 ok: 244 ko: 105 fail ratio: 26.58% time for ok: mean: 87 median: 76
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_190404.html
+ tb69 (Dallas Mac Pro) will be taken offline early May
+ have spare Mac-mini capacity to smooth the transition
+ currently not used – taken off-line: no-one had GUI access (Christian)
+ discuss it off-line (Thorsten)
+ under 100minute mark for mean & median build times, with 500 builds.
+ failures – nothing that sticks out hugely.
+ some of the writer tests failed; but nothing major.
fixed two of the UI tests – that had the same name (Miklos)
+ if were executed in parallel in the past – got a false positive.

* l10n (Sophie)
+ Christian will update LibreOffice Online template on pootle
+ Olivier is organizing a language sprint next month – June/July
+ Guarani language work is being resumed (Olivier)
+ hope to have a UI in the next 3 months.
+ otherwise work is smooth.

* ESC composition (Michael)
+ suggested list as circulated.
+ any objections ?
+ should we blog about it to get more people ? (Heiko)
+ do we want users ? (Michael)
+ we want the people doing the work
+ all are welcome to attend.
+ its about who can vote (theoretically ?) (Michael S)
+ who should be there that isn’t ?
+ tried in the past to get more people ? (Heiko)
+ people are always angry when things change or not change.
+ should get an opportunity.
+ want to have user representatives ? (Michael)
+ surely you are that ?
+ if we blog about it – should be clear who is addressed (Heiko)
+ if developers expected to raise a voice – fine.
+ if users – then that should be clear.
+ make it clear – who steers the project.
+ if we blog about it – make it clear how we steer the project.
+ not to invite people – but to do the best for the project.
+ why not talk with Italo if he wants to blog. (Michael)
+ need formal approval (Gabriel)
+ fair enough make membership conditional on that in proposal (Michael)
=> send the list to the BoD for rubber stamping.

* Jitsi quality (Eike)
+ no better than TDF …
+ had many problems in the past (Xisco)
+ now using the Android app – works much better.
+ if others have a problem just try it.
+ what’s the difference to self-hosted (Thorsten)
+ build-your-own mobile apps ? (Michael)
+ only for PC screen-sharing is that baked on (Thorsten)
+ https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/chrome.crx
(no extension needed for firefox)
+ performance is worse (Christian)
+ but rather close to the TDF server.
+ but for some reason jitsi doesn’t let me unmute anymore
+ quality is better for me (Thorsten)
+ breaking equally on both servers (Eike)
+ chopping every 3rd or 2nd word
+ only for some people – using Chrome.
+ run it on an extra system: 50% of CPU (Heiko)
+ processor speed is killing it
+ is that a Raspberry Pi ? (Thorsten)
+ MacBook Pro i5/2.5Ghz
+ the hangout + phone-line was worse (Michael)
+ so what do we do ? (Xisco)
+ proposal: (Thorsten)
=> try to improve TDF’s server, and stick with this for now.

* QA update (Xisco)

+ New bibisect repo available:
https://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/bibisect/win/bibisect-win32_bytemark-4.3.tar.xz
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/admin/projects/bibisect-win32-4.3
Windows Bibisect repository covering
libreoffice-4-2-branch-point → libreoffice-4-3 HEAD
8.5 GB (+ ~720 for instdir) for ~13600 builds

+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

+ UNCONFIRMED: 579 (+35)
+ enhancements: 82 (+1)
+ needsUXEval: 5 (+0)
+ haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 15 (+1)
+ documentation: 12 (+0)
+ android: 11 (+0)
+ iOS: 1 (+1)
+ Online: 21 (+1)
+ Interesting but rather older bugs:

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122894
+ Import crash – with sample
+ around 3 months since we updated corpus (Caolan)
+ may not crash on every machine – if a layout issue.

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124397
+ Deleting text frame – Noel ?
+ Most pressing bugs:

+ New
+ Letter wizard crashed upon closing file save dialog on "Name ...
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124039
+ Jmux (?) Michael W ? main-loop / threading foo …
+ digital signatures from 6.1 and 6.2 ivalidate each other
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123747
+ Miklos looking into it
+ Older
+ Crash after accepting all changes from compared documents
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109376
+ M. Stahl ? Two different crashes (?)
+ many docs fundamentally broken (Thorsten)
+ 2300 crashes for this signature (Xisco)
+ planning to look at it – leave for ~2 more weeks.

+ Crashes on UNDO
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120754
+ fix for this in gerrit from Caolan.

+ Fixed
+ IDE & Calc crash opening Breakpoint Management (gen)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124440
+ Thanks to Caolán
+ Crash on undo / redo in Basic IDE
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124413
+ Thanks to Noel

* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+159 -22 (-138) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Xisco Faulí 13
Roman Kuznetsov 8
Buovjaga 7
Caolán McNamara 7
V Stuart Foote 6
Tor Lillqvist 6
Oliver Brinzing 5
Luboš Luňák 5
Heiko Tietze 4
Timur 4

+ top 10 bugs reporters:
NISZ LibreOffice Team 13
Nicolas Christener 8
Telesto 5
Owen Savill 4
Andras Timar 4
Roman Kuznetsov 3
Xisco Faulí 2
AtesComp 2
Mike Kaganski 2
sergio.callegari 2

+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 7
Lillqvist, Tor 4
Xisco Faulí 3
Buovjaga 3
Vajna, Miklos 3
Mehrbrodt, Samuel 3
Francis, Dennis P. 2
Luboš Luňák 2
Grandin, Noel 2
1

+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Xisco Faulí 25
Andras Timar 9
Raal 8
Alex Thurgood 8
Roman Kuznetsov 6
Timur 4
Brinzing, Oliver 4
m.a.riosv 3
dieterp 3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/51 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 1/40 - 2 % (+0)
5.3 : 1/54 - 1 % (+0)
5.2 : 1/44 - 2 % (+0)
5.1 : 0/35 - 0 % (+0)
5.0 : 2/64 - 3 % (+0)
4.4 : 1/76 - 1 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 3/134 - 2 % (+0)
4.1 : 3/84 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 4/83 - 4 % (+0)
old : 10/248 - 4 % (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 642/3131 644/3119 642/3095 647/3084 652/3074 655/3063 658/3058

done by:
Xisco Faulí 6
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
Kaganski, Mike 1
Alex ARNAUD 1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 835/3922 837/3909 835/3882 840/3870 846/3859 851/3848 854/3843

done by:
Xisco Faulí 7
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
Kaganski, Mike 1
Alex ARNAUD 1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1122(+0) bugs open of 8312(+18) total 8(+1) high prio.

done by:
Xisco Faulí 8
Robert Großkopf 2
Kaganski, Mike 1
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Harald Koester 1
Alex Thurgood 1
Alex ARNAUD 1
Raal 1
Weghorn, Michael 1


* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
LibreOffice - 4(+1)
Writer - 3(+0)
graphics stack - 1(+0)

by OS:
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
All - 6(+0)
Linux - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+1)


* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 279(+5)
Calc - 220(-2)
Impress - 117(-2)
Writer: docx filter - 79(-1)
LibreOffice - 71(+1)
Base - 44(+0)
Draw - 43(-1)
UI - 43(+0)
Borders - 41(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 37(+0)
Writer: perf - 34(-2)
graphics stack - 33(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Crashes - 30(+0)
RTL - 24(+0)
filters and storage - 24(+0)
BASIC - 17(+0)
Chart - 13(+1)
Printing and PDF export - 12(-1)
framework - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 2(+0)
Extensions - 1(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)

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