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[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-23


+++++++ MEETING TIME NEXT WEEK IS 12:00 GMT+1 DST / 10am UTC +++++++

Present: Eric, Thibaut, Tomaz, Heiko

Tickets

* New meeting time as DST begins?
+ Keep 12:00 Berlin time so new UTC is 10am

* Results from user survey (Eric Ficheux)
+ Improvements asked by users (mostly asked are 1st) version at time of survey: 4.4
+ Better print and page layout setup
+ Less crashes
+ Mailing
+ Better MSO compatibility especially Impress
+ Pivot tables (persistant custom cell formats)
+ Bullets & Numbering
+ Photos and pictures management
+ Load/Save speed on big files
+ General UX design and usability
+ Macro editor improvements
+ More/Easier layout options in diagrams
+ Online and embedded help improvement
+ Lossless copy between LibreOffice modules
+ Better link with business software
+ Sorting and Autofilters
+ « REAL » cut/paste in Calc (actually removing the cut line)
+ Emailing without SMTP
+ Clone tool "full clone by default"
+ Keyboard shortcuts like MSO
+ New page / new section (especially when switching page format)

* Prototyping tool
* We want to use a tool where different people/groups can easily cooperate
* Do we want to use closed-software (which is today much better)?
Closed software
+ http://balsamiq.com/ (used for most of the mockups so far)
Providing interactivity, export to html/javascript, requirements etc.
+ https://www.justinmind.com/ (got in contact with the company and they offer good conditions)
+ https://www.axure.com/
Open Source
+ http://pencil.evolus.vn/
+ http://draw.io/ (?)
Ultimately
+ LibreOffice Draw (Eat own dog food)

* Handling of Sifr
+ Heiko: "I wonder who is in charge of https://github.com/libodesign as
there was a related problem with tdf#106284. Guess it is an abandoned idea."
+ Kendy: "Yeah, the separate git repo did not work out, we ended up working
directly in the core.git (which is a plus I think)"
+ Tomaz: "we don't have those icons in core.git"
+ Heiko: "Meaning we have to merge them?"
+ Tomaz: "well there are more things to do - talk about how to store the icons
- currently sifr is in big svg sheets (multiple icons per sheet), so ideally
they should be 1 icon per svg - same as breeze if designers don't want that
OK - we can store those svg sheets too, but we need to start building sifr_svg set
which needs to be 1 icon per svg. I'm a bit dissapointed that new sifr icons have
been added without svg variant"

* Moving is simple but maintainer would be needed; put also svg into the repo (Tomaz)
=> Jay, could you get in contact with the author?

* Make LibreOffice design unique (Thibaut)
+ Right now we adopt the design to the system which has flaws,
especially on dark themes https://imgur.com/a/RtFOD
+ Usually programs do have a clear branding so the suggestion is to have
one default design and one default icon theme
+ This was likely decided intentionally (Heiko)
+ Issues should be filed as bugs (Tomaz)
=> File an enhancement request and let's run the discussion on Bugzilla (Heiko)

* Major release update
+ better than hiring a designer we should do the design with an open source community
+ http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Branding-for-LibreOffice-6-0-tt4210681.html

GSoC

* Request about blurry shadows
+ reply on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q20gfoikNic0zi10_SkZuTr2zlp4XRkfrnlv7tK2Ins

Tickets
* New default color palette
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538
+ survey done, analyzed and comment included into the final layout
+ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/173uYSPE1TPaZdCL997YyQLllRt2xBIV4oD5M3Bjo7yU




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