+ Stephan, Jan-Marek, Miklos, Heiko, JanI, Michael M, Norbert,
Christian, Robinson, Armin, Eike, Bjoern, Kendy, Michael S
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ setup Mac machine for Base development (Cloph /Norbert)
[ is a Mac there not used; but no access (Norbert)
if knew the hostname, could check (Cloph)
+ not aware of any spare macs
AI: + find the mystery Mac (from Markus) with Alex (Cloph) ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.1.5 RC1
+ synching to mirrors, early testing & QA list announce done.
+ will announce to the public early evening / tomorrow morning.
+ 5.2.0 RC3
+ due next Tuesday - 19th.
+ please review your patches & target branches v.s 5-2
+ Now: one review to -5-2 branch, and another two to:
+ libreoffice 5-2-0 branch
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ non-crashing builds - but bug in Android Viewer:
+ only shows top-left tile for Impress for render
+ but slide-show thumbnails not working
+ not pushed yet.
* When to push large-scale cosmetic changes? (Stephan)
+ e.g. <https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26302/> "Remove the ::
prefix in ::std for sd"
+ large-scale cleanup patch
+ Miklos had dug out an ESC resolution that we want such only
between libreoffice-x.y.2 tagging and libreoffice-x-(y+1) branch-
+ i.e., next window between week 39 ("Release 5.2.2" at
and week 47 ("Hard feature freezed & branched
+ quite some time out.
+ postponed all these patches - which pile-up in gerrit
+ clarify if we want to go with this push window
+ how far away ? (Norbert)
+ eleven weeks away - week 39 (Norbert)
+ rule is to limit the aggravation back-porting (Norbert)
+ understand need to keep back-porting open (JanI)
+ patch lingering for months de-motivates people.
+ find a balance, 2 months or so
+ want to limit the amount of churn (Norbert)
+ not don't want them - but would like to postpone them.
+ a large cumulative effect (Michael)
+ wasted a lot of time in the past with code churn & back-porting.
+ is it an easy-hack, or own-initiative ? (Bjoern)
+ huge - but line for line (Kendy)
+ better than renaming, and splitting, etc.
+ ok with this one, but discourage this on a regular basis.
+ compromise suggested (Miklos)
+ merge what is in gerrit, but no more at this stage in release cycle.
+ how best to communicate the window ? (JanI)
+ somewhere in the release-plan / wiki ?
+ have a page in the wiki - can tell contributors.
+ the release plan is already there (Norbert)
+ ESC minutes are there.
AI: + create proposal for page to point contributors at it (JanI)
+ after x.y.2 - things open up.
+ big bulk changes auto-created (Bjoern)
+ best to present scripts.
+ we want to do these in a certain window.
+ scripts don't need re-basing etc.
+ very big bulk changes - delayed just to before next big branch (Michael)
+ small, localised cosmetic changes ok as a 1st easy-hack (Michael)
+ useful to clarify it (Stephan)
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno - CfP open (Sophie)
+ travelling to Brno -> fly to Prague / Vienna unlikely to go direct
(BMI has a flight from Münich, others from London).
+ Dates here:
+ Link is:
+ Deadline is -this-Friday- [!]
+ other colleagues want to speak, and already filed (Jmux)
+ filed some UX results / planning talks (Heiko)
+ joint workshop on UX / development interaction (Kendy / Heiko)
+ submitted mentoring & language tooling talk (JanI
+ <insert boring business talk> (Michael)
+ CI infrastructure update / lightning perhaps (Norbert)
+ pootle + translation workflow / feedback / glade bits (Christian)
+ silverstripe / website talk (Christian)
+ state of the infra -> state of project talk from Florian (?)
+ draw/impress geometric presentation (Armin)
+ lightening talks (Kendy)
+ a calc talk (Eike)
+ QA intro/train (Robinson)
+ bibisect bits (Bjoern)
+ writer UNO API / test de-tangling (?) (Bjoern)
+ David Tardon - live ! (David)
+ BOF on technical futures / craziness (Michael/Caolan/Thorsten)
+ Community-day -> no ESC, meet in the evening.
* Documentation (Cloph)
+ Olivier - on the road
+ synched on a re-work of the config
+ not necessary to change the format
+ off-line help would be a reduced version; that can reference enhanced
content on the website
+ would contain references you can't see off-line.
+ eg. "related links" - more info at XYZ URL.
+ main problem is not having the content - but translating it.
* GSoC 2016 (Armin)
+ Nothing new.
+ Next deadline is August 23rd for final evaluation.
+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
* Suggested plan for OpenCL in Calc, going ahead #3 (Michael)
+ recent improvements:
+ help->about details implemented
+ S/W interpreter performance unit tests done
+ OpenCLZone - to disable CL if we crash "in the zone"
+ pre-qualify OpenCL driver on LibO / CL version change
before using it for 'real work'
+ ongoing Calc maintenance
+ investing more here; driven by calc guys but plans are:
+ further CL / unit test improvements
+ tinderboxen to test AMD + Intel CL.
+ further MDDS corner-case / performance work & debuggability
+ continuing to cleanup formula & acceleration work
+ OpenCL kernel simplification
+ white & black-list improvements
+ add CL / version info to the crash report
+ nice to have experimental-mode button to test with &
without CL and compare results (Eike)
+ leave defaults as is; OpenCL on.
+ re-visit in six months.
+ commitment to pro-active fixing, ASAP if issues.
+ plan is good (Eike)
+ no objections to any details.
+ hope we catch the OpenCL errors.
+ crash is bad but wrong result is much worse. (Norbert)
+ catching the wrong results early (Michael)
+ like a patch handy in case it explodes (Bjoern)
+ trivial config setting in officecfg (Michael)
+ been on for several releases.
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Finishing GSoC projects
+ Questions and discussion about area full style
+ Emoji toolbar added since template manager is finished
+ shapes got into the Impress Sidebar
+ Extended Toolbar (testing instructions
To show the Notebookbar, go to Tools ▸ Customize... Click on the Add... button.
Under the View category there is a "Notebookbar" item. After adding it to the
toolbar/menu, you can switch the Notebookbar on/off.
+ play with it Tools->Customize->Add under 'View' category
+ add 'Notebookbar'
+ Revamp of Draw layers/group access started some controversial discussion
+ Proposal: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bbbjhMcbdbxPT3UQfaGDEhQ5vy2H1qu_a7b9ICeJ3Ck
+ additional discussion:
+ encourage people to come to the design session tomorrow
+ ODF layers are not related to z-order
(and actually an orthogonal concept to groups) but users
may expect it to be more of a true layer
+ please invite me there (Armin)
+ was always unhappy with the name 'layer'
+ just some Z-order independent additional grouping.
+ group tagged by layer name - can be on or off.
+ nothing to do with Z order; name is very poorly chosen.
+ not easy to add a layer concept
+ but nice feature of entering / leaving groups
* Crashtest update (missing Caolan)
+ 1 import failures, 0 export failure, coverity ?
+ coverity - still problematic.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Hamburg Home-hacking setup (Bjoern)
[ next week, Wednesday - Bjoern's place
- all invited send him an E-mail
- brain-storming on university engagement]
+ next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet.
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Chaos event - good for outreach; at the same time as Munich.
+ Infra Meetup: July 24th to 30th, close to Munich (kaufbeuren)
+ Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten)
+ more suggestions welcome
* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- compared to last week
17045(0) commits in a year of which 8304(4) were made directly, without use of gerrit
294(0) people made commits in a year, 57(-8) in a month. 58(7) people to be emailed
+ gerrit: committer open 79(8) contributor open 47(-4)
updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned
year: 79(8) 7263(-23) 583(0) 47(-4) 1478(19) 470(-2)
month: 78(7) 675(-54) 56(-2) 46(-5) 180(-4) 27(-5)
week: 53(11) 166(29) 8(-15) 27(-7) 38(12) 3(-3)
total 249(0) open 216(3) assigned 15(-1)
needinfo 17(-2) needsDevEval 471(-1) needsUXEval 143(-1)
missing cleanup due to many comments 199(2)
+ top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
Zdenek Crhonek got 66 patches merged, and have a total of 92 merged patches
Muhammet Kara got 22 patches merged, and have a total of 45 merged patches
Winfried Donkers got 15 patches merged, and have a total of 36 merged patches
Mark Page got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 20 merged patches
Susobhan Ghosh got 9 patches merged, and have a total of 14 merged patches
+ new easyHacks:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100782 mentor:Katarina.Behrens -> "Have
XPropertyList and its derivatives hold smart pointers"
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp,
+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an experienced developer
+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
+ lots of movement disruption.
* Commit Access
+ Jakub Trzebiatowski (Miklos)
+ GSOC student, doing well
AI: + welcome and encourage to merge trivial changes (Miklos)
+ enabled (Norbert)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
=> timeout for 7 weeks.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Jul 7 13:48:08 2016
master linux rel jobs: 173 ok: 140 ko: 33 fail ratio: 19.08 % break: 9 broken
master linux dbg jobs: 128 ok: 112 ko: 15 fail ratio: 11.72 % break: 5 broken
master mac rel jobs: 169 ok: 161 ko: 8 fail ratio: 4.73 % break: 3 broken duration:
master mac dbg jobs: 156 ok: 105 ko: 18 fail ratio: 11.54 % break: 3 broken
master win rel jobs: 137 ok: 126 ko: 11 fail ratio: 8.03 % break: 5 broken duration:
master win dbg jobs: 139 ok: 126 ko: 13 fail ratio: 9.35 % break: 5 broken duration:
master win64 dbg jobs: 146 ok: 133 ko: 13 fail ratio: 8.90 % break: 4 broken duration:
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 23 ok: 23 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration:
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 16 ok: 16 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration:
+ meant to break:
gerrit win rel jobs: 406 ok: 276 ko: 129 fail ratio:31.77%
gerrit lin rel jobs: 405 ok: 285 ko: 118 fail ratio:29.14%
gerrit mac rel jobs: 407 ok: 270 ko: 136 fail ratio:33.42%
gerrit all jobs: 407 ok: 229 ko: 175 fail ratio:43.00%
+ Mac tinderbox debug number
- experimenting with the clang plugin
- turned on 'make check' on Mac debug tinderbox
+ hangs in interesting ways.
+ a test in base that segvs - and everyone stalls & blocks.
+ similar dbaccess build failure ? (Bjoern)
+ seen in 5.2.0 rc2
+ seen them (Norbert)
+ a dozen tests running, not sure which is hanging.
+ Heisenbugs expected here.
* ICU library oddness (Norbert)
+ recent Mac - changed the prefix ___ replaced on install.
+ one that points to itself, doesn't get replaced.
+ has an issue with Firebird on build.
+ don't know how to test if ICU is really working for us.
+ which library (Eike)
+ there are three external ones (Norbert)
+ only way to change last _ was to use -id to replace the library id
* l10n (Sophie)
* Windows / tinderbox builds on dev-builds (Cloph)
+ latest windows - 2 days old, only one of these
+ distracted by release builds
+ currently building 5.2, next will be master.
+ CI win tinderbox builds - built it 30mins ago.
+ Kendy's on vacation - turned off - mending it ...
+ El-capitan update - can't provide regular Mac builds.
+ problem - Apple decided to enable S/W security.
+ nothing in /usr/bin, DYLIB_LIBRARY_PATH not working (ignored) etc. (Norbert)
+ enable-debug build works, but release does not.
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 652
+ enhancements: 61
+ in ux-advise: 27
+ needAdvice at 56
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
+ tdf#92516 - "x" accelerator and mouse click not exiting StartCenter
in "File -> Exit LibreOffice" menu on Windows.
+ Continue to see dupe reports; an annoyance
+ Mail merge regressions
+ http://tdf.io/mmregressions (6 open; 7 open last meeting)
+ Couple of Mac issues: will retest with master builds when available
* QA stats
+91 -96 (-5 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 19
Winfried Donkers 8
V Stuart Foote 6
Samuel Mehrbrodt 6
Aron Budea 6
David Tardon 4
Julien Nabet 3
Laurent BP 3
Eike Rathke 3
Bartosz Kosiorek 3
Cor Nouws 2
Stanislav Horacek 2
Joel Madero 2
Markus Mohrhard 2
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 2/16 - 12% -2
5.1: 2/29 - 6% +0
5.0: 7/53 - 13% +0
4.4: 7/73 - 9% +0
4.3: 5/69 - 7% +0
4.2: 8/133 - 6% +0
4.1: 4/79 - 5% +0
4.0: 10/82 - 12% +0
old: 34/248 - 13% +0
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 353/1378 359/1378 362/1374 364/1371 367/1371 365/1363 369/1361
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 711(-13) bugs open of 5025(+10) total 11(-1) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 4 (-1)
Writer - 4 (+0)
Impress - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
LibreOffice - 1 (+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 222 (-3)
Calc - 133 (-5)
Impress - 57 (-1)
LibreOffice - 43 (-3)
graphics stack - 38 (+0)
UI - 36 (+0)
Borders - 32 (+0)
Base - 32 (+0)
Crashes - 29 (+0)
Draw - 27 (+0)
filters and storage - 22 (+0)
Chart - 15 (+0)
BASIC - 14 (+0)
Printing and PDF export- 11 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
framework - 3 (+0)
Formula Editor - 3 (-2)
Installation - 1 (-2)
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