Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-10

Present:
    + Heiko, Akshay, Susobhan, Jay, Samuel, Kendy, Bubli, Cor (partly)

Easy hacks that need code pointers
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59570 (scrollbar into slider at draw export dialogs)

Google Summer of Code
  * Template Manager (Akshay)
        + How to edit a template without the Template Manager?
            + see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61396 (discussing different solutions by the way)
            + follow suggestion from comment #18 with another menu entry "Open for Editing..." (Heiko)
              + con: the same file dialog shows up without indication what will happen
            + have an infobar when a template is opened (Jay)
              + con: would be annoying when always shown
            + add a checkbox to the open dialog "Open as Template" (Samuel)
              + con: adds complexity to the simple file dialog (shown only when ott is selected)
            + Just edit the template when it is opened from the file dialog (Jay)
              + con: in other workflow users want to create a document based on this template (as it is right now)
            + Allow editing only from template manager (Akshay)
              + con: there might be people who don't use the tamplate manager
           -> have a dedicated file dialog for template as suggested by Cor in the bug

  * Progress of Area Fill project (Rishabh)
      + Progress for solid colors (names edit field removed)
      + Color picker in sidebar/toolbar has some issues that need to be fixed first
      + Continuing work on pattern section
      + Replanning the work (e.g. multistop gradient is out-of-scope)
      + Rishabh will prepare a blog post about what has been done and what will follow, plus which impediments he faced

  * Progress of Sidebar Improvements (Susobhan)
      + Header and Footer panel patch up on gerrit - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/25781/
      + Styles Panel patch almost finished, draft up on gerrit - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26020/
      + Enabled Page Background Panel for Draw (from Impress) and reorganized Properties panel for impress -
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26159/
      + Working to remove Margin Panel and presets to be moved into Format Panel (as per bug report)

Discussion
    + Writer menu (Cor)
      + Trouble with late Writer menu changes
        + see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781#c103
        + Consistency over modules/apps is a goal, meaning Chart... cannot be moved (Jay)
        + HIG defines a max. of 20 items on root which are exceeded right now (Jay)
        + Votes for changing back: Pro: 1, Con: 2, Don't care/Undecided: 4
        + But let's ask the community (Heiko)
          + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/FA4RgWeUDmT

Enhancements and proposals
  * Automatic creation of screenshots (bubli)
       http://picpaste.com/screenshot2-MXBWBA1U.png
       http://picpaste.com/screenshot1-IhK3p0jP.png
       + icon will become a real button with text (shown only when in some special mode)