+ Lionel, Norbert, Michael M., Stephan, Caolan, Tor, Laszlo, Miklos, Kendy,
Andras, Sam, Bjoern, Thorsten, Muthu, Christian, Sophie, Cedric, Michael S,
* Completed Action Items:
+ review bin/rename-sw-abbreviations.sh (All writer-types)
[ completed, and is the branch-off point for 5.0 ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ please forward numbers to Fridrich/Thorsten/Cedric (Thorsten, Kendy)
+ find some developer/sysadmin'y type people to train in CI maintenance (Cloph)
[ no time scheduled; after the call ]
+ move problem writer tests from check -> subsequentcheck for sw.all (Michael S)
[ pending wait for result of subsequentcheck enabling on Jenkins,
been set on Linux build for some weeks,
all working fine for some weeks (Norbert) ]
* GSoC (Cedric)
+ make sure students on-track; coding starts next monday ...
+ make sure students wake up Monday (or Tue. if a public holiday)
+ Nov 7th & 8th - Mentor summit ....
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.0.0 - Beta 0
+ branched off - tag created by Alex.
+ worked well
+ builds on pre-release server, announced
early-testing & QA list
+ available for the bug-hunt this weekend.
+ Late Features:
+ LibreOfficeKit / Online tweaks (Michael)
+ only bug-fixes so far; non-controversial (Kendy)
+ in the unstable part of LibreOfficeKit
+ in case it's a feature - ask for 3x approvals here
+ only the #ifdef UNSTABLE_API ifdefs anyway
+ no concerns.
+ OpenGL / double-buffer RenderContext (Kendy/Quikee)
+ available in 5.0 by default; widgets need annotating as to (Kendy)
whether they work for double buffering or not.
+ would like to enable double buffering as it is fixed up
+ improvements in non-flickering-ness.
+ get non-controversial parts in & ask for wider review (Kendy)
+ happy to review (Caolan)
+ desire to get OpenGL working well for 5.0 @ Collabora (Michael)
+ concerns wrt. a few rendering regressions (Markus)
+ see how some widgets are created.
+ have an idea how much work & how dangerous
+ 2nd big VCL change in 5.0
+ interested in the bugs (Kendy)
+ Tomaz willing to fix that
+ dialogs not updating so fast anymore; had a few where it can
be seen how they are created (Markus)
+ could be Idle timer issues, or VclPtr, or OpenGL (Michael)
+ concerned wrt. regressions in the release cycle (Markus)
+ fixing VCL issues takes a while (Markus)
+ double-buffer, guarded with a variable (Kendy)
+ can disable it before the release if an issue
+ can disable it per-class, etc.
+ review in a week - see if we can fix the rendering.
+ gtk3+ theming, embedded video, cut/paste (Caolan)
+ showing it off at the hack-fest
+ some parts better than gtk2 theming; list buttons / boxes etc.
+ focus frames - look better etc.
+ gtk3 theming; they're still working on it inside gtk3
+ ABI issues in gtk port
+ missing cut/paste & embedded videos
+ some temp-popup windows not working.
+ incredibly isolated (Michael)
+ some long stretch headless backend (Caolan)
+ no concerns.
+ Windows 64 (Norbert)
+ setting up a tinderbox but:
+ OLE crashing in the basic tests. (VBATest::testMiscOLEStuff)
+ basic build unit test failing
+ only 1x big Amazon Windows build.
+ would be lovely to see it working (Thorsten)
+ are we blocking on CI ?
+ my builds pass (Thorsten)
+ nothing tweaked now/in in W2012r2 and VS 2013 (Norbert)
+ same for Thorsten
+ compare configure options (Thorsten, Norbert, Cloph)
AI: + firebird_sdbc disable by default in the config (Thorsten)
+ remove the addressbook thunderbird / driver bits too
AI: + disable by default in favour of mork (Thorsten)
+ people complain when Win64 bit tinderbox stops building too (Thorsten)
+ its being tested
+ release it - but by default offer 32bit build for download ? (Kendy)
+ make it a bit lower profile for 5.0.0 (Thorsten)
+ Cloph's machine also reproduces the testing failures.
+ change-tracking UI improvements @ hackfest (Kendy)
+ will ask for review ...
+ text wrapping for chart labels (Marco)
+ tests before committing important (Markus)
+ ensure existing documents not regressing
+ may not make it / not urgent; lets see. (Michael)
+ sw_16bit (Thorsten/Bubli)
+ largely done
+ nice to have some easy hacks done too
+ in already on Monday before the freeze.
+ orcus with gnumeric import (Markus)
+ would like to get the latest version in
+ still poking at the Windows build there.
+ improves it a lot; not just formulas, numbers, strings
+ adds: formats and conditional formatting.
+ no concerns.
+ 4.4.4 RC1
+ next week
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ patches in Gerrit, for wearable bits
+ plan to review this weekend.
* Can we kill gcc 4.6 for master after 5.0 (Stephan)
+ agreement was to keep it working until 5.0 (Thorsten)
+ no concerns beyond general skepticism of large change in 1st few months
+ switch gcc 4.6 tinderbox over to 5.0 branch ? (Stephan)
* non-pch build issue (Norbert)
+ seemingly we only build with pch these days
+ nice on tinderboxes, jenkins
+ non-pch; failed - stuff not in the right order etc.
+ do we need to support the flag for bit-rotted non-pch
+ no joy with ccache on Windows (Cloph)
+ ccache in general not working well by design (Kendy)
+ MSVC no split pre-processor so works just as fast.
+ make --enable-pch a dummy option for windows
+ same for ccache on windows.
+ add --best-effort to tinderboxen ? (Michael)
+ not that painful - do-not-use options etc. (Norbert)
+ problems in the future with Clang / compiler-plugins (Michael S)
+ coverity on Windows ? disable-pch un-tested by tinderboxes
anyway, more theoretical.
+ do the fixing as/when we add coverity.
+ what happened with pch (Kendy)
+ Lubos resurrected pch, after a while.
* Merge incomplete multi-stop gradients ? (Thorsten)
+ not happy with merging it without an ODF filter
+ ideally commitment from committer
+ or get it in - in a disabled state to stop bit-rot. (Michael)
+ ie. not enabled in the filter.
+ type of UNO properties from plain to complex gradient (Miklos)
+ so many non-working issues.
+ adding things to VCL, canvas, meta-files, printing, PDF export (Thorsten)
+ meat of patch not so huge.
+ reviewed the filter part - no major concerns (Miklos)
+ type of UNO properties change; compat. apparently not considered.
+ hold off and ask for improvements.
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
+ 1x non-asan build since the last meeting
+ 1 input assert from 75k - writer, cross-reference bookmarks,
range over which it's set in a red-line document.
+ a few export remaining, 1x new category fixed there
+ next build down in exports.
+ new Asan output (Markus)
+ 4-5 input crashers that didn't look like false positives
+ 1x in the transliterator / break-iterator seen in past.
+ UbSan is next ... and/or msan ... ~= memcheck
+ UbSan - doesn't work for 'make check' (Stephan)
+ regressed in last few weeks; a picky one - finds things too.
+ fixed the cross-reference import assert (Michael S)
+ a weird corner-case; only from binary word import.
+ in theory at zero import issues.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Cambridge, UK - May 2015 (in-progress ~now Michael)
AI: + take a pretty picture (Thorsten)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Oct 23rd -> Oct 25th ...
+ 1x month after the conference
+ Fri/Sat/Sun ...
+ Belgium another candidate ...
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ meeting cancelled missing Kendy + Jay.
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ Pootle tested now, and almost ready for production
+ pending Cloph's return from vacation.
+ translation for 5.0 going on already.
+ try it out at https://translations-test.documentfoundation.org/
+ project descriptions for Android Viewer being translated
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ in-person meeting to decided in Cambridge planned.
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
from:Thu May 14 13:46:21 2015
master linux rel jobs:211 ok:195 ko:15 fail ratio:7.1% break:8 broken duration:2.87%
master linux dbg jobs:141 ok:131 ko:10 fail ratio:7.09% break:6 broken duration:3.57%
master mac rel jobs:173 ok:139 ko:34 fail ratio:19.65% break:9 broken duration:14.44%
master mac dbg jobs:183 ok:141 ko:42 fail ratio:22.95% break:10 broken duration:16%
master win rel jobs:103 ok:44 ko:59 fail ratio:57.28% break:7 broken duration:57.31%
master win dbg jobs:103 ok:49 ko:54 fail ratio:52.42% break:8 broken duration:49.62%
lo-4.4 mac jobs:8 ok:7 ko:1 fail ratio:12.49% break:1 broken duration:12.47%
gerrit win rel jobs:176 ok:74 ko:102 fail ratio:57.95%
gerrit lin rel jobs:177 ok:136 ko:41 fail ratio:23.16%
gerrit mac rel jobs:176 ok:133 ko:43 fail ratio:24.43%
gerrit all jobs:176 ok:65 ko:111 fail ratio:63.06%
+ Mea-Culpa - should have used CI etc. (Michael)
+ Windows broken ~50% of the time this week
+ already have a git repo, to setup a box easily; would like help.
+ 'lode' - run the script etc.
+ CI linux builds with MALLOC_CHECK_=2 etc. (Michael)
AI: + add to script wrapper for tinderboxes (Norbert / Michael)
AI: + add ooenv bits for cppunittests (Michael)
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to:
+ Bjoern Michaelsen
+ Markus Mohrhard
+ QA guys renamed all the whiteboard entries
+ they start with a lower-case now
AI: + provide a new query for the minutes (Robinson)
+ avoid spamming the dev list for this at all costs.
+ create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
"easyHack difficultybeginner skillcpp topiccleanup"
* Reverting stuff (Kendy)
+ just a reminder - when you revert something, please don't
forget to email the author
* QA (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 317
+ needAdvice at 13
+ Upgrades this weekend
+ BugHunting Session 5.0.0 starting tomorrow!
+ VclPtr tracker: 9 open out of 31
+ watching it carefully (Michael)
+ apparently everything is now my fault
+ same for Layout work (Caolan)
* QA stats:
+150 -148 (+2 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Adolfo Jayme 11
Michael Meeks 7
Michael Stahl 6
Joel Madero 5
Markus Mohrhard 4
David Tardon 4
Andras Timar 3
Yousuf (Jay) Philips 3
* Open 5.0 MAB
+ 6/11 5/9 6/9 5/8 5/8 4/7 2/5 0/3 1/3 1/3 1/3 0/2 0/2 1/2 0/1 0/1 0/1 0/1
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 19/60 15/56 16/56 15/53 15/53 14/52 15/52 14/51 14/50 13/49 15/49 14/48
31% 26% 28% 28% 28% 26% 28% 27% 28% 26% 30% 29%
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 77/169 77/169 78/167 79/166 79/166 80/165 79/163 78/163 76/160 78/160
45% 45% 46% 47% 47% 48% 48% 47% 47% 48%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 333/874 337/869 334/849 334/839 327/831 330/820 321/798 291/737
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 581(-9) bugs open of 3799(+17) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 208 (-4)
Calc - 112 (-4)
Crashes - 44 (-4)
Impress - 43 (+2)
LibreOffice - 40 (-1)
UI - 31 (+1)
Draw - 23 (+0)
graphics stack - 22 (-1)
Borders - 18 (+0)
Base - 18 (+0)
filters and storage - 15 (-1)
Chart - 10 (+0)
Printing / PDF export - 8 (+0)
BASIC - 5 (+0)
framework - 4 (+0)
Extensions - 4 (+0)
Formula Editor - 4 (+0)
Linguistic - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Installation - 1 (-1)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
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