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* Present
    + Stephan, Lionel, Jan-Marek, Bjoern, Andras, Miklos, Michael M,
      Norbert, David, Michael S, Eike, Muthu, Christian, Caolan, Markus
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + poke JBF - what is the status here ? (Michael)
    + push the new sorting default to libreoffice-4-2 branch (Andras)
       [ also back-ported Kohei's subsequent reference fix (Michael) ]
    + work out how to use VM's (ssh bob@1.2.3.4) (all hack-fest mentors)
       [ cloph & Robinson to document ]
    + get a clear use-case & description of what doesn't work vs. master wrt. Calc sorting (JBF)
       [ made a beautiful spreadsheet of the issues:
         https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=108990 ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + look at regressions associated with a SUSE bugzilla bugfix (Timar)
    + mention calc sorting issue in the 4.2.7 / 4.3.3 release notes (Cloph)
    + build pre-canned downloadable VM's for Tolouse (Cloph)
       [ creating VirtualBox images ]
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.4 Alpha 2 status
        + going to kick-off the builds today.
        + what's it about ? (Bjoern)
            + horrible Windows issue wrt. Alpha1 (Cloph)
    + 4.3.next - calc / sort release ?
        + 4.3.4 RC1 - nominally Nov 24th
        + proposal to accelerate this & do an out-of-order release.
            + can squeeze an earlier release in (Cloph)
            + can do a tag for 4.3.4 RC1 next week
            + see if one RC is enough ?
AI:         + look at sorting spreadsheet / use-cases etc. (Eike)
    + 4.4.0 Beta 1 / Feature Freeze / adjust ?
        + lots coming in from Collabora, track at-risks next week.
    + Android / iOS Remote
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + futures / Manitu ordering update ? no update.
    + on same H/W that the new machine has (Cloph)
       + can do a complete I/O test cycle in 20 hrs
       + with new / much improved parallelism
           + 640 jobs, one each thread
           + down to around 3x days - locally.
           + still need to adapt the script that generates CSV files
               + layout of files on the server changed.
               + now at 64k files.
               + got some additional files from Caolan for the next run.
           + if you have non-public files, that we should test
               + can up-load to a server & sync. to the crashtesting VM
               + mail Markus ...
        + have some more obscure formats in the crash-testing previously ignored
           + we detect the file-type before exporting.
           + and handle more odd / corner-case types
        + what is the worst single job ? (Norbert)
           + average of 33mins per job. (Markus)
        + how to spend spare cycles doing testing ? (Norbert)
           + need to port the script to Mac etc. (Markus)
           + also need to download the document collection
        + every 4-8 weeks we update and get another one-two thousand files.
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/013ec10d4e89e86cbd53a88058defb7e97ebaa49/ 
(25-Oct-2014)
        + newer report vs. the abstract directories -> re-spinning.
 
* Hackfests
    + Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud)
        + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
        + more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
        + budget reserved (Eur 2k) - poke Bjoern.
    + Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
        http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/
        + jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account
        + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
          just show up etc.
           + November 21st-23rd, 2014
             https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich
           + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
        + 35 or so registrations - looking fun.
    + Need further offers [!] ...
        + propose Collabora / Cambridge (Michael)
        + should consider Las Palmas de Gran Canaria/University again (Bjoern)
        + Freiburg - also an option (prolly better in summer anyway (Bjoern)
 
* FOSDEM bits
    + https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15
         + 20 minute slots (good to collect talks)
    + please consider filing by mid. December !
    + Volunteer needed to book / run the hackfest afterwards.
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + default option of sorting / reference update (Kohei)
         + set to false for now - the old behavior
AI:          + commit to master (Kendy)
         + otherwise, being able to set it while sorting; but
           unclear if there is time to do that.
    + sidebar - will hide it a bit: just icons by default.
         + don't want it there by default: lots of screen estate
         + its openend for styles eg.
    + lots of smaller cleanups going on, lots of good things.
    + one result of the surveys: copy/cut/paste
         + won't do any changes for this release; more measurement needed.
 
* Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
    + asked new guys - 2x happy to be certified:
         + Jan-Marek Glogowski, Samuel Mehrbrodt 
 
* Bugzilla migration (Bjoern)
    + discussed it in Seattle; goal 12th November
    + redmine - has a list of missing pieces; unclear when we're moving.
        + https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/751 meta-task
    + timing is increasingly non-ideal now wrt. major release work
        + new target for after 4.4.1
 
* Jenkins research (Norbert)
    + experimenting with a local version that mirrors to public version
    + been starting with Mac's - and since this morning, a couple of Windows
    + currently churns builds.
    + starting to gather other resource
    + in 2x weeks - ran 409 gerrit builds, and 321 tinderbox builds.
    + 3x Mac and 2x Windows
        + can see in gerrit - messages about starting / completing the build.
        + will see all 3x platforms pass or fail eventually.
    + still a WIP, some issues around it
        + need to find some way to bring it into TDF infrastructure.
        + as long as it doesn't vote +1 or -1 on verification
        + feel free to ignore for now.
    + every new patch in gerrit triggers a build
        + would need a gerrit plugin to "merge if builds"
             + could do it as a remote plugin (Bjoern)
 
* QA (Bjoern)
    + UNCONFIRMED bug count down to 648 (!!!) on 2014-10-31
        + big thanks to all our triagers !
        + couple of new people actively helping
    + Alpha1 bibisect repository is built locally
        + will try to push that out shortly.
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +167    -184        (-17 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators   70
        Beluga              12
        Maxim Monastirsky   10
        Joel Madero          8
        Jay Philips          8
        Caolán McNamara      6
        Cor Nouws            6
        tommy27              6
        Julien Nabet         5
        Adolfo Jayme         5
 
* Open 4.4 MAB
  + 3/16 3/16 4/16 5/15 4/14 3/12 3/12 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 16/64 16/64 15/63 16/63 16/60 17/61 16/60 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52
     25%   18%   23%   25%   26%   27%   26%   23%   25%   22%   24%   26%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 81/263 84/262 82/260 80/260 82/260 86/257 88/257 89/257 91/257 86/252
     30%    32%    31%    30%    31%    33%    35%    34%    35%    34%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 173/446 170/441 161/427 153/413 154/410 147/401 143/392 143/389 146/385
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 494(-2) bugs open of 3178(+13) total
        * ~Component   count net *
                Writer - 149 (+2)
           Spreadsheet -  99 (-2)
          Presentation -  33 (-1)
               Crashes -  31 (-2)
              Database -  28 (+0)
                    UI -  26 (+1)
           Libreoffice -  24 (+0)
               Drawing -  22 (-1)
              Graphics -  22 (+0)
               Borders -  19 (+0)
               Filters -  19 (+1)
                 Chart -  14 (+1)
           Print / PDF -  13 (-1)
            Extensions -   5 (+0)
            Linguistic -   4 (+0)
                 BASIC -   4 (+0)
          Installation -   4 (-1)
               Formula -   3 (+0)
             framework -   1 (+0)
                   sdk -   0 (+0)
        Impress Remote -   0 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )

-- 
 michael.meeks@collabora.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot


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