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----- Forwarded message from Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz> -----

Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:18:43 +0100
From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
Subject: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Minutes of ESC call, January 31, 2012
Reply-To: libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>

* Present:
        + Andras, Kohei, Markus, Cedric, Joel, Stefan, Eilidh, Astron, Eike, Petr
        + many people were missing, so only few action items were updated

* Completed Action Items
    + decision on whether to switch back to old floppy save (Astron)
        + done for 4.0.0.3
    + FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development
      Markus will write to Italo to add Eilidh's talk (Markus)
    + come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request
      for build hardware => board budget (Thorsten)

* Pending Action Items
    + completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
    + find person who can write and add off-line help for
      impress-remote (Thorsten)
    + get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy)
    + create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
    + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
    + Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
        + everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
        + not much activity so far; FOSDEM might bring more ideas
    + Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern)
    + regression catching on tinderbox
      Figure out time-out issues (Markus)
    + Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Michael M)
    + STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
          VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
    + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
         + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
         + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
    + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page
      (Michael M)
    + investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten)
    + on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated
        + add off-line help and it'll appear on-line when kendy
        fixes server load issues.
    + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
    + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
    + tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
        + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
    + Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)
    + MySQL connector - can/will/where to ship it (Thorsten)


* Release Engineering update (Petr)
    + 4.0 timeline:
        + RC3 tagged, builds in progress
        + was a bit painful; thanks everyone for the hard work,
          especially Stefan, Eike, and Norbert for working on the last
          minute blockers
        + still within the schedule
        + final release following week if no blocker
        + next: 4.0.1.1 commit deadline on Feb 18, 2013
    + 3.6.5
        + out; went well
        + next: 3.6.6.1 commit deadline on March 18, 2013


* UX input (Astron)
    + 4.0/4.x branding
        + the selected branding was not widely accepted
        + new pool started, see 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/4-0-Branding-poll-td4032751.html
        + no visible winner right now
        + branding based on the new pool should be ready on February 19 =>
          it might be used in 4.0.1.1 build

* Features - please check/update:
    + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0
    + missing Mac / full-screen bits (Tor)

* 4.0 pending tasks
    + MySQL connector compat issues
    + binfilter:
        + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (no owner)
        + it is late for 4.0 because of string and UI freeze
    + drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902
            + lots of cleanup in configure
    + Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417
        + close that wontfix & release-note it ?
    + template managers improvements (Cedric)
        + there are still issues that need handling
        + nothing serious
        + string and bigger UI changes should wait for 4.1 (Petr)
        + small UI changes might be acceptable for 4.0.1 if
          they fix annoying issues (Petr)

* Hard Hacks:
    + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
    + will get updated next week after QA meeting (Joel)
    + developers are still more focused on 4.0 regressions and critical bugs (Petr)

* QA update (Joel)
        + new members this week, very active in triagging, list goes down
        + updated queries show that more bugs need review
        + there are fruits from teaching users; new bug reports have
          better quality because people accept feedback and hints from
          their older reports; they are listening
        + 4.0 looks good
        + help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
          
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
        + samba bugs:
                + there are some Samba-related bugs
                + is Samba completely broken in 4.0?
                + Joel is going to investigate and escalate if necessary

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 13 (of 79) older 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18
             22%            22%   14%   22%   27%   32%  26%   29%   35%   29%  22%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 45 (of 175) older 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152
              25%            25%    24%     22%   23%    21%    22%    21%     20%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
        + 47 (of 264) older 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279
              18%            18%    18%    18%    19%    20%    22%    23%    23%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 45 (of 126) older 42/117 40/114 43/110
        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 243(+3) bugs open of 1188(+20) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 89 (+2)
        + Presentation - 25 (+2)
        + Spreadsheet  - 22 (-3)
        + Database     - 19 (+0)
        + LibreOffice  - 18 (+3)
        + Crashes      - 15 (+0)
        + Drawing      - 14 (-1)
        + Borders      - 11 (+0)
        + Migration    - 5  (+0)
        + Basic        - 2  (+0)

        + 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1


Best Regards,
Petr

----- End forwarded message -----

-- Thorsten

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