+ Markus, David, Michael M, Norbert, Astron, Petr, Thorsten, Kohei,
Eike, Stephan, Michael S, Bjoern, Kendy, Joel
* Completed Action Items
+ kill legacy stlport packaging (Stephan)
+ interactive android/remote debugging with Astron on IRC (Thorsten)
+ moved check-boxes etc. now working for Astron
+ remove Accessibility API use / sample from odk (Thorsten)
+ BSA: sanity check: version reported == last-known-working
version is not a regression (Rob Snelders)
+ can BSA add the version to the comment as well (Rob Snelders)
+ update the 4.0 release notes wiki page to explain DocumentInfo (Michael S)
+ persuade Thorsten of final MSI / pkg naming / resting place (Kendy)
+ will switch with lodev -> libreoffice, unhelpful timing RC1
* Pending Action Items
+ [pending] add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten)
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
+ need to rename the MIGRATED flag and unwind / test re-migration (Michael)
+ tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
+ no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
+ mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich)
+ needs a GPG public key from Caolan, punted to Jan.
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0 timeline:
+ Beta2 - thanks to all for bug fixes & build cleanups,
easy to build and tag on Tuesday.
+ trouble with the windows build performance & reliability
+ binaries a bit later than usual, expected this week.
+ Beta2 is the last beta
+ can push bug-fixes to 4.0 branch without review
+ any larger bug-fixes: good to do now.
+ plan to branch libreoffice-4-0-0 2 weeks after RC1,
Jan 24th (for RC2)
+ completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
+ fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo
* UX input (Astron)
+ needs a new whiteboard for some things that can be fixed
AI: + some on-line help creation would be useful, help appreciated
+ TCP remote requires 'experimental' enabling
AI: + should we hide that in the app itself too ? (Thorsten)
+ template manager / progress (Cedric)
+ ongoing, still concern / discussion about UI
+ adding a first item (on the left) close button to the incremental
search bar requested cf. firefox.
AI: + update the existing bug to an easy-hack 58526 (Michael)
+ question from Mirek: update on ?
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
* gnome-vfs / dependencies issues (Bjoern/Fridrich)
+ why is this not cleanly failing on Ubuntu latest ?
+ getting hangs on this
AI: + disable gnome-vfs for now on linux builds for RC1 (Fridrich)
+ gio uses FUSE anyway by default these days
+ are these crasher guys installing the stdlibs packages ?
could that be the result ?
+ going to drop stdlibs as/when RHEL5 build-bot
+ RHEL5 future:
+ could potentially build with newer glib => gio
+ new dbus menu bits conditional on gio - needs fixing
and a configure conditional.
* Tinbuild2 / callgrind performance testing (Norbert)
+ work ongoing, needs more integration / logging bits
* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ need to audit bug fixes for non-triviality & ask
+ work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ mail proposed, needs review, grammar checking & work underway
* removing generic backup-file names from .gitignore (Norbert)
+ anything not created by the build should be not be in .gitignore
+ git clean doesn't work well due to .gitignore (Fridrich)
+ on windows cygwin core files are big & need removing
+ .gitignores are stackable ? can have ~/.gitignore (Stephan)
+ not want to be too strict - leave generic *~ stuff (Norbert)
AI: + remove overly lame .gitignore entries (Norbert)
* FOSDEM schedule - volunteer needed: (Markus)
+ Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. 15mins
AI: + ask Cor/Sophie/Florian R if they would take this one (Thorsten)
+ Joel volunteers to produce slideware
AI: + how to debug spreadsheet file-format issues (Markus)
AI: + how to debug writer file-format issues (Miklos)
AI: + add: language-tags how they clean up our l10n story (Eike)
AI: + types.rdb removal / re-writing (Stephan)
AI: + hacking on the new android / impress-remote (Thorsten)
AI: + hacking on CMIS / the new template dialog (Cedric)
AI: + misc. new interop. feature and their development (Tibby)
* Features - please update:
AI: + add the Templates UI there (Cedric)
* 4.0 completed tasks:
+ remove Accessibility API use / sample from odk (Thorsten)
+ disable legacy stlport packaging for Linux + Mac (Stephan)
+ can we extract the stlport dll from Beta1 and provide
a release-note about Duden ? (Fridrich)
+ leave for a few RC's and see what happens (Thorsten)
+ Rene is removing stlport conditionals in Debian (Bjoern)
* 4.0 pending tasks
+ warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (needs owner)
+ drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
+ lots of cleanup in configure
+ MSI file re-name to be renamed for 4.0 LibreOffice (Kendy)
+ pain / fixing for PHP / download scripts (Thorsten)
+ user migration path thought / testing (Michael)
+ still issue with 'MIGRATED' flag, esp. on Windows + Mac
+ Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
+ close that wontfix & release-note it ?
+ Mac build / signing (Norbert/Thorsten)
+ technical problem of how to sign it all without
signing each package ?
+ Windows build / postprocess now signing every
binary in Beta2 (Fridrich)
AI: + can we re-use that for Mac (Thorsten)
* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
+ developers need to decide what to do next
+ punting for a month ?
+ re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
* Hard Hacks:
+ mostly suspended until post 4.0 release.
* QA update (Joel)
+ BSA update
+ Rob Snelders - a hero, fixed everything we asked for.
+ Testing Marathon (QA)
+ 10x new guys in the chat-room helping out
+ 3-5 new people helping out which is great
AI: + get update with stats for wordpress to Michael (Joel)
+ no about 70 unconfirmed bugs vs. 4.0
+ be nice to see how Moztrap worked out (Bjoern)
+ QA no more meetings until mid January
+ .net framework, multiple installation bugs in Windows
+ people without the new .Net can't install
+ error message sublimely generic and unhelpful.
+ before building with .Net 2.0, but new compiler produces
newer assemblies. Can we force the new compiler to build
old bytecode ? not with the MS compiler (sadly)
AI: + still chasing the issue - not for B2 (Tor / Fridrich)
+ fixed Joel's favourite bug of the week:
+ -very- impressed & pleased by the QA work in bugzilla (Michael)
+ bisecting down to a single git hash in many cases -
just excellent work ! - thanks to guys who did that.
+ currently have six bibisected bugs open:
* No meeting next week (Michael)
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 13 (of 48) older 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22%
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 37 (of 164) older 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150 34/148 35/145 33/139
23% 21% 22% 21% 20% 22% 23% 24% 24%
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 50 (of 266) older 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278 69/278 69/279 75/278
19% 20% 22% 23% 23% 23% 25% 25% 27%
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 230(+11) bugs open of 1030(+30) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 87 (-7)
+ Presentation - 24 (+1)
+ Spreadsheet - 21 (+4)
+ Crashes - 21 (+4)
+ Database - 16 (+1)
+ Drawing - 15 (+2)
+ LibreOffice - 17 (+3)
+ Borders - 10 (+1)
+ Basic - 4 (-1)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Writer / RTF - 4 (+1)
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
* Punted items until 2013:
+ fdo#49306 FILEOPEN catastrophically bad import of one specific .doc (Lionel)
+ waiting for Lionel.
+ presenter-console patches to back-port to 4.0 ? (Ahmad)
+ can we get a set of hashes of patches we need from master in 4.0 ?
+ how is that going ?
+ Widget layout localisation performance
+ lots of .ui files to localise per language slow ...
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