minutes of ESC call ...

* Present
  + Stephan, Bjoern, David, Joel, Eike, Kendy, Astron, Norbert,
    Andras, Ahmad, Petr, Michael M, Cedric, Kohei, Michael S,
    Tibby

* Completed Action Items
  + bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)
  + font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
  + poke Astron / Alexander / Mirek wrt. ESC UI seat (Kendy)
  + poke board for new ESC compoosition (+Joel,+Tibby,+Ahmad,+Mirek) (Michael)
    + updated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
  + provide a new palette based on Tango
    + punted until new color selector is in place ?
  + setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
    + posted, awaiting input
  + review unity-menus branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)
    + code looks cool

* Pending Action Items
  + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
  + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
  + poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
  + issues to look into if we can
    + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
  + grok the list of contributors for suitable certified hackers (Kendy)
  + work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
  + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
  + 3.6.4 rc1 status
    + built, up-loaded, for announce @ weekend
    + deadline for rc2 - the week after: Nov 26th
      + triple review until then.
  + 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
    + feature-freeze ~2 weeks out.
    + Alpha 0 build planned beforehand to test build / pkg

* UX input (Astron)
  + improving the standard shape colors Alex's question on dev list
    + help appreciated.
  + T-shirt design challenge is running:
    + one promised as a prize
  + color picker prototype coming along nicely
    + http://michel.renon.free.fr/libreoffice/colorpicker_20121112/
  + help cleaning up new dialogs in glade much appreciated
    + install a master snapshot - look for '.ui' files
    + can be edited live.
  + should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
AI: + consensus of UI team is to re-enable them by default (Kendy)
  + document recovery dialog changes ?
    + Kendy's initial thought - easy to fix quickly.
    + if able to split it into easy-hacks: good too.
    + not a real offer to spend too much time.

* Hack-fest next weekend: 23rd-25th ...
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
    + hope to see you there...
    + if people need travel subsidy to be there
      please contact Thorsten.

* FOSDEM dev-room:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
  + travel subsidy available
  + talks much appreciated, sign up early.

* CUPS - switching back to PDF output by default
  + discussion on the lists - decide next time.

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
  + no new people yet - building list for next week.
  + announcement received well

* 4.0 completed tasks:
  + binfilter - removed completely (Norbert)
    + removes legacy StarOffice 1.0->5.0 binary filters
    + leaves .sxw .sxi etc. zip formats
  + dropped migrationAnalysis (Norbert)
    + obsolete, not-built, code removed now
  + not removing Lotus Word Pro filter
    + no good technical reasons to.
  + should we switch to native gtk+/print for 4.0 ?
    + no: not complete for some features yet (Dtardon)

* 4.0 pending tasks
  + upgrade bundled python to 3.3 (Michael S)
    + compiling & delivering nicely on Linux
    + unbelievable complexity in delivering being fixed.
    + 40k lines of patches removed.
AI: + work ongoing, testing help appreciated for Mac (Norbert)
  + Mac / 10.4 / PPC dropping (Norbert)
    + need to drop it at some point; drop now
      with deprecation ?
    + decided: deprecate 10.4/5 and raise base-line to 10.6
      + expect to drop PPC mac for 4.1
  + user migration path thought / testing (Petr)
    + simple linux migration works for release config.
    => can't be tested easily with daily builds
    + issues around dropping old user-install info wrt.
      berkleydb (Stephan)
    => need to hack some more code in there.
  + drop legacy / STLport in 4.0 outright ? (Stephan)
    + keep it longer for back-compat ?
AI: + check that with latest DudenCorrector first (Kendy)
      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37561
      UWINAPI not needed - but latest ver. still links
      to stlport
    + decide: if ok with them -> drop stlport for 4.0
  + drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
  + developers need to decide what to do next
    + punting for a month until post Feature Freeze settle ?
  + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* Hard Hacks fixed with thanks:
  + fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Radek)

* Hard Hacks:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
    + page updated
    + developers like the selection of hard hacks
  + fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
    + well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.
      + best to remove from the list for now ...

* LibreOffice commit tweeter setup (Bjoern)
  + intended to tweet all our commits;
    + throttled by twitterfeed things to 5x every ~20 mins
    + (un)fortunately we often commit faster.
  + interesting nonetheless:
    + https://twitter.com/LOcommits

* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
  + starting bi-weekly meetings again from tomorrow
  + Rainer started a nice todo list:
    http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Todo_rename_3.7_to_4.0

* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
  + fdo#57090 - UI: Buttons cut off in 'Insert Table' dialog (Caolan)
  + fdo#57092 - UI: cursor does not blink in ‘Name’ field (Caolan)
  + fdo#57046 - no windows tinderbox builds as of recently (Fridrich)
  + fdo#57051 - Mac builds don't start with liblangtag bustage (Caolan)

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
  + 6 (of 21) older 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
       29% 22%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

  + fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
  + fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
  + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down
  + fdo#57026 - particular .docx shows all text frames filling complete page size
  + fdo#57059 - crash when scroll down on (Writer) HELP contents

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
  + 33 (of 150) older 34/148 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137
        22% 23% 24% 24% 23% 21% 32% 34%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
  + 65 (of 278) older 69/278 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279
        23% 25% 25% 27% 28% 28% 29% 29%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
  + 186(+8) bugs open of 907(+16) total

  * ~Component count net *
  + Writer - 80 (+6)
  + Presentation - 18 (+1)
  + Spreadsheet - 16 (+1)
  + Database - 16 (+0)
  + Crashes - 16 (-1)
  + Drawing - 12 (-1)
  + LibreOffice - 11 (-1)
  + Borders - 9 (+0)
  + Migration - 5 (+0)
  + Basic - 3 (+0)
  + Writer / RTF - 1 (+0)

  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489